using paper in bottom of pots to reduce

updated wed 27 feb 08

m4j2b1 on wed 23 jan 08

Hi, All....a lady who has gardened for years told me to reduce the
amount of soil required in large pots....say for peas ...peas 'n a
pot...or tomatoes or even flowers, that she puts black and white
newsprint in the bottom of the pots to reduce the amount of soil she
has to supply. I wonder about problems with this and what you people
with experience think. also wonder about shreding the newsprint.
Thanks in advance! Margaret

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Steve on wed 23 jan 08

I would be concerned that the wet paper would settle into the bottom of the
pot and block drainage.

I have filled the bottom of big containers like half whiskey barrels and
other biggies 1/3 to 1/2 with styrofoam peanuts packing material. OMMV

Do not have large amounts of styrofoam peanuts on a greehouse bench in fron=
t
of the open door when the exhaust fan at the other end might turn on at any
moment!

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Christine Sadler on wed 23 jan 08

I have put newprint in the bottom of pots to prevent the soil from getting =
washed out whenever I water plants. So, for that purpose, maybe shredded pa=
per wouldn't work, but shredded paper would take up space, if you are tryin=
g to conserve soil, and it is biodegradable!

m4j2b1 wrote:
Hi, All....a lady who has gardened for years told me to reduce the
amount of soil required in large pots....say for peas ...peas 'n a
pot...or tomatoes or even flowers, that she puts black and white
newsprint in the bottom of the pots to reduce the amount of soil she
has to supply. I wonder about problems with this and what you people
with experience think. also wonder about shreding the newsprint.
Thanks in advance! Margaret

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charlotte meyer on wed 23 jan 08

I'm interested in this topic, too, as I've been
looking at wooden deck planters and worrying about the
weight of them when they're full.

Do the peanuts head to the top, like perlite?

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Portyhouse@aol.com on wed 23 jan 08

I have put newsprint in the bottom of pots to prevent the soil from getting=
washed out whenever I water plants. So, for that purpose, maybe shredded p=
aper wouldn't work, but shredded paper would take up space, if you are tryi=
ng to conserve soil, and it is biodegradable!

m4j2b1 wrote:
Hi, All....a lady who has gardened for years told me to reduce the
amount of soil required in large pots....say for peas ...peas 'n a
pot...or tomatoes or even flowers, that she puts black and white
newsprint in the bottom of the pots to reduce the amount of soil she
has to supply. I wonder about problems with this and what you people
with experience think. also wonder about shreding the newsprint.
Thanks in advance! Margaret

FYI I have been using old packing peanuts for many years to lighten the s=
oil weight.
The peanuts became a pain to remove from the soil in the fall when I emptie=
d the pots for winter SOOOO I now stuff the peanuts in old nylon stockings =
and footies. They stay together, reduce weight and help keep drainage in th=
e pot.
Just my .02
Jim
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Portyhouse@aol.com on thu 24 jan 08

Do the peanuts head to the top, like perlite?
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If the goal is to reduce soil then the paper may not be the best thing to u=
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charlotte meyer on thu 24 jan 08

Ha! Thanks.

--- Portyhouse@aol.com wrote:
> As long as you tie a not in the nylon the peanuts
> stay inside. Pull out the
> footie at end of year flush with water and it's
> ready for next year.

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MBryan on fri 25 jan 08

Love this board! Always ideas, not gossip or spam! THanks to you all for
your sharing about the using paper in bottom of pots...think I'm going
with the peanuts in footies! THanks for your help again! Margaret

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Do you think a paper towel would work better than paper? shaun

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> I would be concerned that the wet paper would settle into the
bottom of the
> pot and block drainage.

> I have filled the bottom of big containers like half whiskey
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A single coffee filter works very well. Inexpensive and sturdy.

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