Does Roundup require sunlight to break down or does it
just react with air and soil? Manufacturer makes great
claims for its safety, but then, they are a major
chemical company.
I know Roundup variations are used on food crops, so
they can't be *as* bad as, say, DDT, but I know
organic growers faint at the mention of it. As I said,
I am not a fan of pesticides except in extreme
circumstances (like poison ivy growing like kudzu!)
Since the area in question is too forested to be used
for crops, human toxicity is not an issue; but I am
concerned for the wildlife. I would not be spraying it
willy-nilly on everything, and definitely not near the
stream or pond.
Guess I'm just feeling guilty and looking for
absolution.
I know the PI plant (every bit of it!) remains toxic;
I just want them to lie down and die. Fresh, they are
so healthy and springy that cutting them is a hazard,
even wearing goggles, mask, coveralls and boots! Would
that the desirable plants did half so well!
I figure after a year the oil of the deceased plants
will dissipate naturally and then (carefully garbed,
still) I can pull out or cut down and remove what's
left, and remove any stray seedlings that pop up.
For anyone interested, the stuff I have found to help
after being exposed to poison ivy is called Tecnu; it
is available in liquid soap. The soap neutralizes the
toxic oil, and even after a rash develops, it helps
stop the eruption if you use it soon enough. Burt's
Bee's makes a bar soap that works very well, also.
Both products are a bit pricey, but worth every penny
in both cases.
Thanks for the input. I will bite the bullet, cover
myself up and try the Roundup on a medium-sized patch.
Mary McInerney
North Carolina by way of Brooklyn, NY
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If you read the MSDS for glyphosate (active ingredient in roundup)
you will find it is not too toxic, is rapidly bound in soil, run off
is not particularly dangerous to aquatic life, eg:
http://www.sare.org/sanet-mg/archives/html-home/27-html/0244.html
However, in some formulations it may be less safe (ie the roundup
that still works in the rain). These have added ingredients that
cause them to be bound less rapidly, which makes them more likely to
get on things you didn't intend. I'm not sure that all organic
growers would faint =3D) I'm sure that most of them hate miracle grow
more, due to salt build up in the soil, depletion of micronutrients
and tilth and so on, which are not caused by roundup.
If I were in your situation, I would likely do the same thing.
gabi
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Do another search for Roundup Linked to NHL and cancer also.
gabrielle singleton
If you read the MSDS for glyphosate (active ingredient in roundup)
you will find it is not too toxic, is rapidly bound in soil, run off
is not particularly dangerous to aquatic life, eg:
http://www.sare.org/sanet-mg/archives/html-home/27-html/0244.html
However, in some formulations it may be less safe (ie the roundup
that still works in the rain). These have added ingredients that
cause them to be bound less rapidly, which makes them more likely to
get on things you didn't intend. I'm not sure that all organic
growers would faint =3D) I'm sure that most of them hate miracle grow
more, due to salt build up in the soil, depletion of micronutrients
and tilth and so on, which are not caused by roundup.
If I were in your situation, I would likely do the same thing.
gabi
http://www.gardenweb.com/members/exch/woodthrush?6762
http://groups.msn.com/PamandGarysYard
http://stores.ebay.com/Country-Maids-Garden-and-Gifts
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With no disrespect intended, cheese has been experimentally proven to cause=
cancer in mice--in "overdose" quantities , of course. We are talking about=
relative safety for a chemical pesticide. With all chemicals it makes comm=
on sense to avoid skin contact and breathing-- as much as reasonably possib=
le. But I'll bet most people have their houses exterminated for bugs--witho=
ut a thought about the fact that those chemicals are so unsafe that it requ=
ires a restricted pesticide license to buy or use them. Everything is relat=
ive.
wood thrush
rote: Do another search for Roundup Linked to NHL and cancer also.
gabrielle singleton wrote:
If you read the MSDS for glyphosate (active ingredient in roundup)
you will find it is not too toxic, is rapidly bound in soil, run off
is not particularly dangerous to aquatic life, eg:
http://www.sare.org/sanet-mg/archives/html-home/27-html/0244.html
However, in some formulations it may be less safe (ie the roundup
that still works in the rain). These have added ingredients that
cause them to be bound less rapidly, which makes them more likely to
get on things you didn't intend. I'm not sure that all organic
growers would faint =3D) I'm sure that most of them hate miracle grow
more, due to salt build up in the soil, depletion of micronutrients
and tilth and so on, which are not caused by roundup.
If I were in your situation, I would likely do the same thing.
gabi
http://www.gardenweb.com/members/exch/woodthrush?6762
http://groups.msn.com/PamandGarysYard
http://stores.ebay.com/Country-Maids-Garden-and-Gifts
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