ivy goo !

updated sun 3 jun 07

mindysonline on tue 22 may 07

I have a big beautiful ivy growing indoors. I'm not sure of the
specific type of ivy, but it's pretty standard. Deep green and not
varigated. Anyway, I've noticed a sticky substance on the edge of the
pot as well as on some of the leaves. Does anyone know what this might
be or how to get rid of it? I have taken the plant outdoors and rinsed
it off real well, but the goo keeps coming back.

Thank you,

Mindy Ziegler
Ag Zone 9B
Southwest Florida

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SueNY on wed 23 may 07

It's called honeydew and it's produced by bugs called aphids. You need to
give the plant a good shower under the faucet or shower or spray with an
insecticidal soap. Check any plants near the affected one as well.

Sue
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Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 1:16 PM
Subject: [Houseplants] Ivy goo !

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Kellie on wed 23 may 07

Hi Mindy, Check for scale, it releases honeydew which is sticky, which also
attracts ants.

Kellie from Sydney

-------Original Message-------

From: mindysonline
Date: 5/24/2007 5:20:40 AM
To: houseplants@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Houseplants] Ivy goo !

I have a big beautiful ivy growing indoors. I'm not sure of the
specific type of ivy, but it's pretty standard. Deep green and not
varigated. Anyway, I've noticed a sticky substance on the edge of the
pot as well as on some of the leaves. Does anyone know what this might
be or how to get rid of it? I have taken the plant outdoors and rinsed
it off real well, but the goo keeps coming back.

Thank you,

Mindy Ziegler
Ag Zone 9B
Southwest Florida

Mindy Ziegler on thu 24 may 07

After looking closely at the leaves, I believe it is scale. Since the plant=
is very large it may be difficult to get rid of them so I may transplant t=
his ivy to the trash. I will wash the pot with hot soapy water and get a ne=
w ivy started. Does anyone have any feedback for this plan? Hopefully the n=
ew ivy I plant will be free of pests. I'm up for suggestions on starting ov=
er.

Thank you,
Mindy
Florida Zone 9B

Kellie > wrote:
Hi Mindy, Check for scale, it releases honeydew which is sticky, which also
attracts ants.

Kellie from Sydney

-------Original Message-------

From: mindysonline
Date: 5/24/2007 5:20:40 AM
To: houseplants@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Houseplants] Ivy goo !

I have a big beautiful ivy growing indoors. I'm not sure of the
specific type of ivy, but it's pretty standard. Deep green and not
varigated. Anyway, I've noticed a sticky substance on the edge of the
pot as well as on some of the leaves. Does anyone know what this might
be or how to get rid of it? I have taken the plant outdoors and rinsed
it off real well, but the goo keeps coming back.

Thank you,

Mindy Ziegler
Ag Zone 9B
Southwest Florida

Grant Meyer on thu 24 may 07

Hi Mindy and all,

Sorry to hear about the scale insects on your ivy. Kellie's suspicion was c=
orrect, huh? If you really want to save the ivy you can wipe the scale off =
with 70% rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball, but you'll have to make sure to =
cover the entire plant top and bottom, and you'll have to repeat over and o=
ver until all the scale is gone for several weeks. Or you can spray it with=
insecticidal soap, which is just fatty acids and water, which will smother=
them, but again you'll have to repeat many times over a few weeks. Or you =
can use the Bayer Systemic ready-to-use rose spray which will make the enti=
re plant toxic for 30 days or so and that will kill all of the scale insect=
s, but you'll need to make sure no pets/kids/etc nibble on the plant since =
it will be toxic for 30 days or so.

Orrrrrrrr, as you said, you can just discard the plant and start over. A ve=
ry hot, soapy scrub is a good idea for the pot. If it was my pot and I want=
ed to re-use it, I'd soak it in a solution of 10% bleach/90% water for an h=
our to sterilize it, and then rinse it off several times and let it air-dry=
for a few days before re-using.

Let us know what you decide to do and how it works out. And keep an eye on =
your other plants to make sure the scale hasn't spread.

Good luck!
Grant

Mindy Ziegler > wro=
te:
After looking closely at the leaves, I believe it is scale. Since the plant=
is very large it may be difficult to get rid of them so I may transplant t=
his ivy to the trash. I will wash the pot with hot soapy water and get a ne=
w ivy started. Does anyone have any feedback for this plan? Hopefully the n=
ew ivy I plant will be free of pests. I'm up for suggestions on starting ov=
er.

Thank you,
Mindy
Florida Zone 9B

Kellie > wrote:
Hi Mindy, Check for scale, it releases honeydew which is sticky, which also
attracts ants.

Kellie from Sydney

-------Original Message-------

From: mindysonline
Date: 5/24/2007 5:20:40 AM
To: houseplants@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Houseplants] Ivy goo !

I have a big beautiful ivy growing indoors. I'm not sure of the
specific type of ivy, but it's pretty standard. Deep green and not
varigated. Anyway, I've noticed a sticky substance on the edge of the
pot as well as on some of the leaves. Does anyone know what this might
be or how to get rid of it? I have taken the plant outdoors and rinsed
it off real well, but the goo keeps coming back.

Thank you,

Mindy Ziegler
Ag Zone 9B
Southwest Florida

Mindy Ziegler on thu 24 may 07

Thanks Grant!

Is there a way to make your own insecticidal soap? If not, is there a parti=
cular brand that works best? It seems that you can use this soap on almost =
any plant. Also, would it be beneficial to use it periodically to prevent p=
roblems with insects?

Mindy

Grant Meyer > wrote:
Hi Mindy and all,

Sorry to hear about the scale insects on your ivy. Kellie's suspicion was c=
orrect, huh? If you really want to save the ivy you can wipe the scale off =
with 70% rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball, but you'll have to make sure to =
cover the entire plant top and bottom, and you'll have to repeat over and o=
ver until all the scale is gone for several weeks. Or you can spray it with=
insecticidal soap, which is just fatty acids and water, which will smother=
them, but again you'll have to repeat many times over a few weeks. Or you =
can use the Bayer Systemic ready-to-use rose spray which will make the enti=
re plant toxic for 30 days or so and that will kill all of the scale insect=
s, but you'll need to make sure no pets/kids/etc nibble on the plant since =
it will be toxic for 30 days or so.

Orrrrrrrr, as you said, you can just discard the plant and start over. A ve=
ry hot, soapy scrub is a good idea for the pot. If it was my pot and I want=
ed to re-use it, I'd soak it in a solution of 10% bleach/90% water for an h=
our to sterilize it, and then rinse it off several times and let it air-dry=
for a few days before re-using.

Let us know what you decide to do and how it works out. And keep an eye on =
your other plants to make sure the scale hasn't spread.

Good luck!
Grant

Mindy Ziegler > wro=
te:
After looking closely at the leaves, I believe it is scale. Since the plant=
is very large it may be difficult to get rid of them so I may transplant t=
his ivy to the trash. I will wash the pot with hot soapy water and get a ne=
w ivy started. Does anyone have any feedback for this plan? Hopefully the n=
ew ivy I plant will be free of pests. I'm up for suggestions on starting ov=
er.

Thank you,
Mindy
Florida Zone 9B

Kellie > wrote:
Hi Mindy, Check for scale, it releases honeydew which is sticky, which also
attracts ants.

Kellie from Sydney

-------Original Message-------

From: mindysonline
Date: 5/24/2007 5:20:40 AM
To: houseplants@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Houseplants] Ivy goo !

I have a big beautiful ivy growing indoors. I'm not sure of the
specific type of ivy, but it's pretty standard. Deep green and not
varigated. Anyway, I've noticed a sticky substance on the edge of the
pot as well as on some of the leaves. Does anyone know what this might
be or how to get rid of it? I have taken the plant outdoors and rinsed
it off real well, but the goo keeps coming back.

Thank you,

Mindy Ziegler
Ag Zone 9B
Southwest Florida

Grant Meyer on thu 24 may 07

Hi Mindy and all,

I've only purchased the brand Safer's soap. It's called "Safer's Insecticid=
al soap". I'm sure other members have purchased, or made, other insecticida=
l soaps.

The Bayer systemic stuff is good, but it's very potent so I've only used it=
on very, very special plants that had a really bad insect problem.

I wouldn't routinely spray with the insecticidal soap as it's pretty heavy =
and I don't **think** the plants would like it too often, but if someone el=
se has different thoughts, please share.

Keep us posted, and if anyone has a recipe for Insecticidal Soap don't be s=
hy.
Best wishes,
Grant

Mindy Ziegler > wro=
te:
Thanks Grant!

Is there a way to make your own insecticidal soap? If not, is there a parti=
cular brand that works best? It seems that you can use this soap on almost =
any plant. Also, would it be beneficial to use it periodically to prevent p=
roblems with insects?

Mindy

Grant Meyer > wrote:
Hi Mindy and all,

Sorry to hear about the scale insects on your ivy. Kellie's suspicion was c=
orrect, huh? If you really want to save the ivy you can wipe the scale off =
with 70% rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball, but you'll have to make sure to =
cover the entire plant top and bottom, and you'll have to repeat over and o=
ver until all the scale is gone for several weeks. Or you can spray it with=
insecticidal soap, which is just fatty acids and water, which will smother=
them, but again you'll have to repeat many times over a few weeks. Or you =
can use the Bayer Systemic ready-to-use rose spray which will make the enti=
re plant toxic for 30 days or so and that will kill all of the scale insect=
s, but you'll need to make sure no pets/kids/etc nibble on the plant since =
it will be toxic for 30 days or so.

Orrrrrrrr, as you said, you can just discard the plant and start over. A ve=
ry hot, soapy scrub is a good idea for the pot. If it was my pot and I want=
ed to re-use it, I'd soak it in a solution of 10% bleach/90% water for an h=
our to sterilize it, and then rinse it off several times and let it air-dry=
for a few days before re-using.

Let us know what you decide to do and how it works out. And keep an eye on =
your other plants to make sure the scale hasn't spread.

Good luck!
Grant

Mindy Ziegler > wro=
te:
After looking closely at the leaves, I believe it is scale. Since the plant=
is very large it may be difficult to get rid of them so I may transplant t=
his ivy to the trash. I will wash the pot with hot soapy water and get a ne=
w ivy started. Does anyone have any feedback for this plan? Hopefully the n=
ew ivy I plant will be free of pests. I'm up for suggestions on starting ov=
er.

Thank you,
Mindy
Florida Zone 9B

Kellie > wrote:
Hi Mindy, Check for scale, it releases honeydew which is sticky, which also
attracts ants.

Kellie from Sydney

-------Original Message-------

From: mindysonline
Date: 5/24/2007 5:20:40 AM
To: houseplants@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Houseplants] Ivy goo !

I have a big beautiful ivy growing indoors. I'm not sure of the
specific type of ivy, but it's pretty standard. Deep green and not
varigated. Anyway, I've noticed a sticky substance on the edge of the
pot as well as on some of the leaves. Does anyone know what this might
be or how to get rid of it? I have taken the plant outdoors and rinsed
it off real well, but the goo keeps coming back.

Thank you,

Mindy Ziegler
Ag Zone 9B
Southwest Florida

SueNY on thu 24 may 07

Take a clean spray bottle and fill with lukewarm water. Add a teaspoon of a
mild dish soap and a teaspoon of cooking oil. Shake well and spray.

Sue
http://houseplants.suite101.com
http://gardenscribe.blogspot.com
http://earthlygarden.com
http://roses.bellaonline.com

ahoo.com>>
To: >
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:06 PM
Subject: Insecticidal Soap=3D=3D>Re: [Houseplants] Ivy goo !

> Hi Mindy and all,

> I've only purchased the brand Safer's soap. It's called "Safer's
Insecticidal soap". I'm sure other members have purchased, or made, other
insecticidal soaps.

> The Bayer systemic stuff is good, but it's very potent so I've only used
it on very, very special plants that had a really bad insect problem.

> I wouldn't routinely spray with the insecticidal soap as it's pretty
heavy and I don't **think** the plants would like it too often, but if
someone else has different thoughts, please share.

> Keep us posted, and if anyone has a recipe for Insecticidal Soap don't
be shy.
> Best wishes,
> Grant

> Mindy Ziegler > w=
rote:
> Thanks Grant!

> Is there a way to make your own insecticidal soap? If not, is there a
particular brand that works best? It seems that you can use this soap on
almost any plant. Also, would it be beneficial to use it periodically to
prevent problems with insects?

> Mindy

> Grant Meyer om>> wrote:
> Hi Mindy and all,

> Sorry to hear about the scale insects on your ivy. Kellie's suspicion was
correct, huh? If you really want to save the ivy you can wipe the scale off
with 70% rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball, but you'll have to make sure to
cover the entire plant top and bottom, and you'll have to repeat over and
over until all the scale is gone for several weeks. Or you can spray it wit=
h
insecticidal soap, which is just fatty acids and water, which will smother
them, but again you'll have to repeat many times over a few weeks. Or you
can use the Bayer Systemic ready-to-use rose spray which will make the
entire plant toxic for 30 days or so and that will kill all of the scale
insects, but you'll need to make sure no pets/kids/etc nibble on the plant
since it will be toxic for 30 days or so.

> Orrrrrrrr, as you said, you can just discard the plant and start over. A
very hot, soapy scrub is a good idea for the pot. If it was my pot and I
wanted to re-use it, I'd soak it in a solution of 10% bleach/90% water for
an hour to sterilize it, and then rinse it off several times and let it
air-dry for a few days before re-using.

> Let us know what you decide to do and how it works out. And keep an eye o=
n
your other plants to make sure the scale hasn't spread.

> Good luck!
> Grant

> Mindy Ziegler > w=
rote:
> After looking closely at the leaves, I believe it is scale. Since the
plant is very large it may be difficult to get rid of them so I may
transplant this ivy to the trash. I will wash the pot with hot soapy water
and get a new ivy started. Does anyone have any feedback for this plan?
Hopefully the new ivy I plant will be free of pests. I'm up for suggestions
on starting over.
also

Mindy Ziegler on fri 25 may 07

Sue and Grant,

Thank you for all of your great information. I have put the ivy outside on =
the front porch (I haven't the heart to trash it yet). Do you suppose that =
a few weeks in 95 degree temps might kill the scale?!? Thankfully none of m=
y other houseplants were close to the ivy and they all seem to be ok.

Here's another question.... If I took a clean cutting (no visible scale) fr=
om my ivy and propogated it, do you think the new plant would be okay?

Now I'm paranoid and I'm examining all the leaves of ALL my plants... this =
is nuts! I've discovered that one of my orchids has a fungus and the bromel=
iad that I planted outside might get eaten by an evil weevil.

I don't mean to be a pest (no pun intended ), but does anyone have any idea=
about how the scale go on my plant? Could it have come from the potting so=
il or could it have been on the plant when I bought it? This is embarrassin=
g, but I got the ivy on sale at Wal Mart... the nursery charges about 3 tim=
es for the same plant.

You guys are great...
Mindy
Ag Zone 9B Florida

SueNY > wrote:
Here's a recipe for a homemade insecticidal soap:

Take a clean spray bottle and fill with lukewarm water. Add a teaspoon of a
mild dish soap and a teaspoon of cooking oil. Shake well and spray.

Sue
http://houseplants.suite101.com
http://gardenscribe.blogspot.com
http://earthlygarden.com
http://roses.bellaonline.com

ahoo.com>>
To: >
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:06 PM
Subject: Insecticidal Soap=3D=3D>Re: [Houseplants] Ivy goo !

> Hi Mindy and all,

> I've only purchased the brand Safer's soap. It's called "Safer's
Insecticidal soap". I'm sure other members have purchased, or made, other
insecticidal soaps.

> The Bayer systemic stuff is good, but it's very potent so I've only used
it on very, very special plants that had a really bad insect problem.

> I wouldn't routinely spray with the insecticidal soap as it's pretty
heavy and I don't **think** the plants would like it too often, but if
someone else has different thoughts, please share.

> Keep us posted, and if anyone has a recipe for Insecticidal Soap don't
be shy.
> Best wishes,
> Grant

> Mindy Ziegler > w=
rote:
> Thanks Grant!

> Is there a way to make your own insecticidal soap? If not, is there a
particular brand that works best? It seems that you can use this soap on
almost any plant. Also, would it be beneficial to use it periodically to
prevent problems with insects?

> Mindy

> Grant Meyer om>> wrote:
> Hi Mindy and all,

> Sorry to hear about the scale insects on your ivy. Kellie's suspicion was
correct, huh? If you really want to save the ivy you can wipe the scale off
with 70% rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball, but you'll have to make sure to
cover the entire plant top and bottom, and you'll have to repeat over and
over until all the scale is gone for several weeks. Or you can spray it wit=
h
insecticidal soap, which is just fatty acids and water, which will smother
them, but again you'll have to repeat many times over a few weeks. Or you
can use the Bayer Systemic ready-to-use rose spray which will make the
entire plant toxic for 30 days or so and that will kill all of the scale
insects, but you'll need to make sure no pets/kids/etc nibble on the plant
since it will be toxic for 30 days or so.

> Orrrrrrrr, as you said, you can just discard the plant and start over. A
very hot, soapy scrub is a good idea for the pot. If it was my pot and I
wanted to re-use it, I'd soak it in a solution of 10% bleach/90% water for
an hour to sterilize it, and then rinse it off several times and let it
air-dry for a few days before re-using.

> Let us know what you decide to do and how it works out. And keep an eye o=
n
your other plants to make sure the scale hasn't spread.

> Good luck!
> Grant

> Mindy Ziegler > w=
rote:
> After looking closely at the leaves, I believe it is scale. Since the
plant is very large it may be difficult to get rid of them so I may
transplant this ivy to the trash. I will wash the pot with hot soapy water
and get a new ivy started. Does anyone have any feedback for this plan?
Hopefully the new ivy I plant will be free of pests. I'm up for suggestions
on starting over.
also

SueNY on fri 25 may 07

Sue
http://houseplants.suite101.com
http://gardenscribe.blogspot.com
http://earthlygarden.com
http://roses.bellaonline.com

om>>
To: >
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Insecticidal Soap=3D=3D>Re: [Houseplants] Ivy goo !

> Sue and Grant,

> Thank you for all of your great information. I have put the ivy outside
on the front porch (I haven't the heart to trash it yet). Do you suppose
that a few weeks in 95 degree temps might kill the scale?!? Thankfully none
of my other houseplants were close to the ivy and they all seem to be ok.

> Here's another question.... If I took a clean cutting (no visible scale)
from my ivy and propogated it, do you think the new plant would be okay?

> Now I'm paranoid and I'm examining all the leaves of ALL my plants...
this is nuts! I've discovered that one of my orchids has a fungus and the
bromeliad that I planted outside might get eaten by an evil weevil.

> I don't mean to be a pest (no pun intended ), but does anyone have any
idea about how the scale go on my plant? Could it have come from the pottin=
g
soil or could it have been on the plant when I bought it? This is
embarrassing, but I got the ivy on sale at Wal Mart... the nursery charges
about 3 times for the same plant.
a
0yahoo.com>>
d
wrote:
.com>> wrote:
> Hi Mindy and all,

> Sorry to hear about the scale insects on your ivy. Kellie's suspicion
was
> correct, huh? If you really want to save the ivy you can wipe the scale
off
> with 70% rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball, but you'll have to make sure t=
o
> cover the entire plant top and bottom, and you'll have to repeat over and
> over until all the scale is gone for several weeks. Or you can spray it
with
> insecticidal soap, which is just fatty acids and water, which will smothe=
r
> them, but again you'll have to repeat many times over a few weeks. Or you
> can use the Bayer Systemic ready-to-use rose spray which will make the
> entire plant toxic for 30 days or so and that will kill all of the scale
> insects, but you'll need to make sure no pets/kids/etc nibble on the plan=
t
> since it will be toxic for 30 days or so.

> Orrrrrrrr, as you said, you can just discard the plant and start over. =
A
> very hot, soapy scrub is a good idea for the pot. If it was my pot and I
> wanted to re-use it, I'd soak it in a solution of 10% bleach/90% water fo=
r
> an hour to sterilize it, and then rinse it off several times and let it
> air-dry for a few days before re-using.

> Let us know what you decide to do and how it works out. And keep an eye
on
wrote:
> After looking closely at the leaves, I believe it is scale. Since the
> plant is very large it may be difficult to get rid of them so I may
> transplant this ivy to the trash. I will wash the pot with hot soapy wate=
r
> and get a new ivy started. Does anyone have any feedback for this plan?
> Hopefully the new ivy I plant will be free of pests. I'm up for
suggestions

Grant Meyer on fri 25 may 07

Great recipe, Sue....thanks for sharing it! I need to add that to my files.

Mindy, 95 degree F temps won't really affect the scale, but like Sue mentio=
ned, it might make your ivy unhappy, especially if it's been indoors in the=
shade. Plants sunburn easily when first put outside so it's always best to=
plop them in deep shade and to start their transition to the great outdoor=
s when temps indoors and out are similar so it's not such a big adjustment.

Your cutting should be fine if it's truly scale-free, but they're very, ver=
y small when young, so keep a close eye on it. A small cutting would be eas=
y to wipe down with a cotton ball soaked in 70% rubbing alcohol so even if =
it ended up with a few, you could eradicate them with persistance.

Your plant may have had scale on it when you bought it, or it could come in=
via potting soil, or outdoor soil, or even tracked in by a bet, or by you,=
or by cut flowers, the list goes on and on. I'm always amazed by the fact =
that two or three times a year I just happen to find an aphid on my clothes=
after I've been outside, so the little critters seem to get in no matter h=
ow careful we are.

Keep us posted! and thanks again for the recipe Sue. I love it!
Take care,
Grant
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Mindy Ziegler > wro=
te:
Sue and Grant,

Thank you for all of your great information. I have put the ivy outside on =
the front porch (I haven't the heart to trash it yet). Do you suppose that =
a few weeks in 95 degree temps might kill the scale?!? Thankfully none of m=
y other houseplants were close to the ivy and they all seem to be ok.

Here's another question.... If I took a clean cutting (no visible scale) fr=
om my ivy and propogated it, do you think the new plant would be okay?

Now I'm paranoid and I'm examining all the leaves of ALL my plants... this =
is nuts! I've discovered that one of my orchids has a fungus and the bromel=
iad that I planted outside might get eaten by an evil weevil.

I don't mean to be a pest (no pun intended ), but does anyone have any idea=
about how the scale go on my plant? Could it have come from the potting so=
il or could it have been on the plant when I bought it? This is embarrassin=
g, but I got the ivy on sale at Wal Mart... the nursery charges about 3 tim=
es for the same plant.

You guys are great...
Mindy
Ag Zone 9B Florida

SueNY > wrote:
Here's a recipe for a homemade insecticidal soap:

Take a clean spray bottle and fill with lukewarm water. Add a teaspoon of a
mild dish soap and a teaspoon of cooking oil. Shake well and spray.

Sue
http://houseplants.suite101.com
http://gardenscribe.blogspot.com
http://earthlygarden.com
http://roses.bellaonline.com

ahoo.com>>
To: >
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:06 PM
Subject: Insecticidal Soap=3D=3D>Re: [Houseplants] Ivy goo !

> Hi Mindy and all,

> I've only purchased the brand Safer's soap. It's called "Safer's
Insecticidal soap". I'm sure other members have purchased, or made, other
insecticidal soaps.

> The Bayer systemic stuff is good, but it's very potent so I've only used
it on very, very special plants that had a really bad insect problem.

> I wouldn't routinely spray with the insecticidal soap as it's pretty
heavy and I don't **think** the plants would like it too often, but if
someone else has different thoughts, please share.

> Keep us posted, and if anyone has a recipe for Insecticidal Soap don't
be shy.
> Best wishes,
> Grant

> Mindy Ziegler > w=
rote:
> Thanks Grant!

> Is there a way to make your own insecticidal soap? If not, is there a
particular brand that works best? It seems that you can use this soap on
almost any plant. Also, would it be beneficial to use it periodically to
prevent problems with insects?

> Mindy

> Grant Meyer om>> wrote:
> Hi Mindy and all,

> Sorry to hear about the scale insects on your ivy. Kellie's suspicion was
correct, huh? If you really want to save the ivy you can wipe the scale off
with 70% rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball, but you'll have to make sure to
cover the entire plant top and bottom, and you'll have to repeat over and
over until all the scale is gone for several weeks. Or you can spray it wit=
h
insecticidal soap, which is just fatty acids and water, which will smother
them, but again you'll have to repeat many times over a few weeks. Or you
can use the Bayer Systemic ready-to-use rose spray which will make the
entire plant toxic for 30 days or so and that will kill all of the scale
insects, but you'll need to make sure no pets/kids/etc nibble on the plant
since it will be toxic for 30 days or so.

> Orrrrrrrr, as you said, you can just discard the plant and start over. A
very hot, soapy scrub is a good idea for the pot. If it was my pot and I
wanted to re-use it, I'd soak it in a solution of 10% bleach/90% water for
an hour to sterilize it, and then rinse it off several times and let it
air-dry for a few days before re-using.

> Let us know what you decide to do and how it works out. And keep an eye o=
n
your other plants to make sure the scale hasn't spread.

> Good luck!
> Grant

> Mindy Ziegler > w=
rote:
> After looking closely at the leaves, I believe it is scale. Since the
plant is very large it may be difficult to get rid of them so I may
transplant this ivy to the trash. I will wash the pot with hot soapy water
and get a new ivy started. Does anyone have any feedback for this plan?
Hopefully the new ivy I plant will be free of pests. I'm up for suggestions
on starting over.
also

Cyn V on sun 3 jun 07

Can this insecticidal soap mix be used on edibles? (I'm growing tomatoes, p=
eppers, etc, outside, and there are some flying gnat looking critters, as w=
ell as a few catepillars eating the leaves & boring into the tomatoes).

Cyn (south texas)

----- Original Message ----
From: SueNY >
To: houseplants@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:23:01 PM
Subject: Re: Insecticidal Soap=3D=3D>Re: [Houseplants] Ivy goo !

Here's a recipe for a homemade insecticidal soap:

Take a clean spray bottle and fill with lukewarm water. Add a teaspoon of a

mild dish soap and a teaspoon of cooking oil. Shake well and spray.

Sue

http://houseplants. suite101. com

http://gardenscribe .blogspot. com

http://earthlygarde n.com

http://roses. bellaonline. com

Insecticidal soap". I'm sure other members have purchased, or made, other

insecticidal soaps.

> The Bayer systemic stuff is good, but it's very potent so I've only used

it on very, very special plants that had a really bad insect problem.

> I wouldn't routinely spray with the insecticidal soap as it's pretty

heavy and I don't **think** the plants would like it too often, but if

someone else has different thoughts, please share.

> Keep us posted, and if anyone has a recipe for Insecticidal Soap don't

be shy.

particular brand that works best? It seems that you can use this soap on

almost any plant. Also, would it be beneficial to use it periodically to

prevent problems with insects?

correct, huh? If you really want to save the ivy you can wipe the scale off

with 70% rubbing alcohol on a cotton ball, but you'll have to make sure to

cover the entire plant top and bottom, and you'll have to repeat over and

over until all the scale is gone for several weeks. Or you can spray it wit=
h

insecticidal soap, which is just fatty acids and water, which will smother

them, but again you'll have to repeat many times over a few weeks. Or you

can use the Bayer Systemic ready-to-use rose spray which will make the

entire plant toxic for 30 days or so and that will kill all of the scale

insects, but you'll need to make sure no pets/kids/etc nibble on the plant

since it will be toxic for 30 days or so.

> Orrrrrrrr, as you said, you can just discard the plant and start over. A

very hot, soapy scrub is a good idea for the pot. If it was my pot and I

wanted to re-use it, I'd soak it in a solution of 10% bleach/90% water for

an hour to sterilize it, and then rinse it off several times and let it

air-dry for a few days before re-using.

> Let us know what you decide to do and how it works out. And keep an eye o=
n

your other plants to make sure the scale hasn't spread.

plant is very large it may be difficult to get rid of them so I may

transplant this ivy to the trash. I will wash the pot with hot soapy water

and get a new ivy started. Does anyone have any feedback for this plan?

Hopefully the new ivy I plant will be free of pests. I'm up for suggestions

on starting over.

also