Buddy,
Do you leave your potroots in the pots for the winter? What size pots do
you grow them in? Do you drill a hole inthe top of the potroot? I have
both 4" potroots and 2" potroots. In the display garden I plant, I leave
them all in 4" pots so digging doesn't make as much of a mess. This year I
have daffodills planted in 4" pots that I will put in place of the dahlias
when I dig them. People can't believe it when I tell them those 4' & 5'
plants in glorious bloom are in 4" pots.
By the way, still no frost and none predicted for at least the next 10 days.
In fact, Portland is supposed to be up to 70 on Sunday. While I have a
lot of dahlia stems laying over because of the rain we've had lately, we
still sold 11 dozen flowers yesterday. I've never had the dahlias look so
good and stems still so strong this late in the year. Guess they are making
up for the late start.
Teresa
Teresa
----Original Message Follows----
From: deanbke@aol.com
Reply-To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Fall Division and storage - sanitation
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 07:40:07 EDT
In a message dated 10/17/2006 11:42:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tcgreene7@msn.com writes:
I wish there was a "fail safe"method!
-Cristy IEDS
Cristy,
There is!!!!!! In the ground they were grown in. Potroots. Results
are fully charges root systems for cuttings in the spring.
Buddy Dean
Hilltop Gardens, Inc.
Cashiers, NC
deanbke@aol.com wrote:
All are in 4" pots to be lifted starting today. ,_._,___
Buddy,
How far apart and how deep do you plant your pot roots.
Don McAllister
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----Original Message Follows----
From: deanbke@aol.com
Reply-To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 08:31:59 EDT
In a message dated 10/18/2006 7:58:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
larryteresa@msn.com writes:
Buddy,
Do you leave your potroots in the pots for the winter? What size pots do
you grow them in? Do you drill a hole inthe top of the potroot? I have
both 4" potroots and 2" potroots. In the display garden I plant, I leave
them all in 4" pots so digging doesn't make as much of a mess. This year I
have daffodills planted in 4" pots that I will put in place of the dahlias
when I dig them. People can't believe it when I tell them those 4' & 5'
plants in glorious bloom are in 4" pots.
All are in 4" pots to be lifted starting today. Pots are lifted but not
shaken free of dirt. 7-10 days in the greenhouse to dry out and then into
storage(crawl space under the house). I don't drill a hole in center of
potroot.
I top the plants early and it seems to keep the stem from becoming hollow
at
ground level. Up higher yes but not at ground level. We harvested full
size A & AA from PR area. And when someone questions this I would pop one
out
of the ground for confirmation. Once the plants are cut down we will dig
2000
in one day for storage. The remaining field grown plants will take some
time to dig and divide. 20-35/per day. There's only three of us to do it.
ME,
MYSELF & I !!!!!
Buddy Dean
Hilltop Gardens, Inc.
Cashiers, NC
And yet another pot root question. Some of my pot roots grow very thick
stalks -- much thicker than their tuber counterparts. Why is this?
By the way, Don. My 2" pot roots are barely below ground. They are planted
4 wide, side by side in a sort of "ditch". I copied how Kevin Larkin had
his planted in a picture he mailed me.
Teresa
----Original Message Follows----
From: Don McAllister
Reply-To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:19:20 -0700 (PDT)
deanbke@aol.com wrote:
All are in 4" pots to be lifted starting today. ,_._,___
Buddy,
How far apart and how deep do you plant your pot roots.
Don McAllister
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Buddy,
Do you leave your potroots in the pots for the winter? What size pots do
you grow them in? Do you drill a hole inthe top of the potroot? I have
both 4" potroots and 2" potroots. In the display garden I plant, I leave
them all in 4" pots so digging doesn't make as much of a mess. This year I
have daffodills planted in 4" pots that I will put in place of the dahlias
when I dig them. People can't believe it when I tell them those 4' & 5'
plants in glorious bloom are in 4" pots.
All are in 4" pots to be lifted starting today. Pots are lifted but not
shaken free of dirt. 7-10 days in the greenhouse to dry out and then into
storage(crawl space under the house). I don't drill a hole in center of potroot.
I top the plants early and it seems to keep the stem from becoming hollow at
ground level. Up higher yes but not at ground level. We harvested full
size A & AA from PR area. And when someone questions this I would pop one out
of the ground for confirmation. Once the plants are cut down we will dig 2000
in one day for storage. The remaining field grown plants will take some
time to dig and divide. 20-35/per day. There's only three of us to do it. ME,
MYSELF & I !!!!!
Buddy Dean
Hilltop Gardens, Inc.
Cashiers, NC
Buddy,
How far apart and how deep do you plant your pot roots.
Don McAllister
Don,
Trowel length apart X length of row planted 3 rows wide. Grown up
through netting (6X6") 4' wide. Planted with about 1" of dirt to cover the pot.
Buddy
Teresa,
Can't really answer that question. I top mine early for a number of
reasons. One benefit for me is a hardened, solid stem below the top point.
Once planted and laterals start to grow this is the start of the hollow stems.
If a lateral snaps off usually damage to the main stalk is minimal. Stalk is
not as large but well hardened for support. Or something like that.
Buddy
PS I like the way Kevin & Karen deal with their PR too.
Buddy,
Is it possible you might have a picture of these pot roots growing at
maturity? I've thought about using the netting, but haven't tried that yet.
Are the rows trowel length apart, also? Still analyzing the best way to
do it.
Teresa
----Original Message Follows----
From: deanbke@aol.com
Reply-To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:55:49 EDT
In a message dated 10/18/2006 9:24:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
donmc00@yahoo.com writes:
Buddy,
How far apart and how deep do you plant your pot roots.
Don McAllister
Don,
Trowel length apart X length of row planted 3 rows wide. Grown up
through netting (6X6") 4' wide. Planted with about 1" of dirt to cover the
pot.
Buddy
Thank you so much for that info, Buddy. The thing I love most about this
group is the willingness to share information and help each other learn
better ways to do things. Where do you buy the netting? I really look
forward to seeing the pictures. Aren't we a crazy bunch? I haven't even
cut down a dahlia plant yet and am planning how to do things for next year.
I must admit, though, as soon as I got things planted this year, I started
thinking about how to do them better next year.
Teresa
----Original Message Follows----
From: deanbke@aol.com
Reply-To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:35:08 EDT
Teresa,
I know I've got pics somewhere & will try to send one. I space mine
alittle wider that other people. With the netting @ 4' wide I space my
pots at
18' apart across the row & trowel length down the length. Two rows of
netting per block. One at about 18" high the next around 30". I use the
pot roots
and seedling(both grown through netting) for the cut flower market. I
think
for next yr we will also grow poms in the netting. Spreading plants with
no
tying & the foliage is small enough to pull through the netting. Of course
the spacing would be about 2 ft. 3000' ft is about $275 and is well worth
the expenditure. I would spend more $ than that just in tying time. I do
not
reuse. At the end of the season I dispose of it along with the tops of the
plants.
Another thought......a probably reality for next season. I might buy
netting that is 6' wide and cut into two pieces 3' wide. I had problems
with
the middle row of plants not getting enough care. Next season probably 2
rows
wide instead of 3 for better manageability.
Time to dig, dig, dig, dig, dig,...........
Buddy Dean
Hilltop Gardens, Inc.
Cashiers, NC
Teresa,
I know I've got pics somewhere & will try to send one. I space mine
alittle wider that other people. With the netting @ 4' wide I space my pots at
18' apart across the row & trowel length down the length. Two rows of
netting per block. One at about 18" high the next around 30". I use the pot roots
and seedling(both grown through netting) for the cut flower market. I think
for next yr we will also grow poms in the netting. Spreading plants with no
tying & the foliage is small enough to pull through the netting. Of course
the spacing would be about 2 ft. 3000' ft is about $275 and is well worth
the expenditure. I would spend more $ than that just in tying time. I do not
reuse. At the end of the season I dispose of it along with the tops of the
plants.
Another thought......a probably reality for next season. I might buy
netting that is 6' wide and cut into two pieces 3' wide. I had problems with
the middle row of plants not getting enough care. Next season probably 2 rows
wide instead of 3 for better manageability.
Time to dig, dig, dig, dig, dig,...........
Buddy Dean
Hilltop Gardens, Inc.
Cashiers, NC
Marie,
We dahlia nuts certainly share a lot of crazy stuff. A couple years ago it was so cold and wet at dahlia lifting time that we tried everything to shorten the length of time that one had to stand out in the rain to wash dirt off the tubers. How about hooking up the pressure washer? I thought it would scrub the skin right off the tubers but it really worked quite well. Do not spray too close to the tubers as it can cause a lot of damage.
Del L. Knowlton
From: "Marie Ohlson" marie.ohlson@telia.com
Reply-To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:52:41 0200
the same thoughts but different people! It?s the same here in Sweden. I always have ideas about getting all the job done easier.... This year I have used compressed air getting the dirt of the tubers.
regards from MARIE
Thank you so much for that info, Buddy. The thing I love most about this
group is the willingness to share information and help each other learn
better ways to do things. Where do you buy the netting? I really look
forward to seeing the pictures. Aren't we a crazy bunch? I haven't even
cut down a dahlia plant yet and am planning how to do things for next year.
I must admit, though, as soon as I got things planted this year, I started
thinking about how to do them better next year.
Teresa
----Original Message Follows----
From: deanbke@aol.com
Reply-To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:35:08 EDT
Teresa,
I know I've got pics somewhere will try to send one. I space mine
alittle wider that other people. With the netting @ 4' wide I space my
pots at
18' apart across the row trowel length down the length. Two rows of
netting per block. One at about 18" high the next around 30". I use the
pot roots
and seedling(both grown through netting) for the cut flower market. I
think
for next yr we will also grow poms in the netting. Spreading plants with
no
tying the foliage is small enough to pull through the netting. Of course
the spacing would be about 2 ft. 3000' ft is about $275 and is well worth
the expenditure. I would spend more $ than that just in tying time. I do
not
reuse. At the end of the season I dispose of it along with the tops of the
plants.
Another thought......a probably reality for next season. I might buy
netting that is 6' wide and cut into two pieces 3' wide. I had problems
with
the middle row of plants not getting enough care. Next season probably 2
rows
wide instead of 3 for better manageability.
Time to dig, dig, dig, dig, dig,...........
Buddy Dean
Hilltop Gardens, Inc.
Cashiers, NC
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Thank you so much for that info, Buddy. The thing I love most about this
group is the willingness to share information and help each other learn
better ways to do things. Where do you buy the netting? I really look
forward to seeing the pictures. Aren't we a crazy bunch? I haven't even
cut down a dahlia plant yet and am planning how to do things for next year.
I must admit, though, as soon as I got things planted this year, I started
thinking about how to do them better next year.
Teresa
This group is for sharing and learning. I learn a tidbit quiet frequently
from others on the group. Some info is old hat that just needs some tweeking.
When you stop learning you have given up on life. I teach the kids in all
of my groups that life is a learning experience and they should strive to
learn something new everyday even it's just a different way to tie their shoes.
I'll say it again that everyone needs to lure a child into the shows. They
are the ones that we will be relying on in the future. Free roots, a helping
hand when needed & a giant rosette to show off to their friends sometimes is
all that is needed.
Buddy Dean
Hilltop Gardens, Inc.
Cashiers, NC
Try having someone hold an umbrella while going thru the process...If anyon=
e has kids...
-Cristy
----- Original Message -----
From: Marie Ohlson
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
I=B4d tried that too last year, but I didn=B4t like that I also got very =
wet....=20=20
regards from MARIE
----- Original Message -----
From: Del Knowlton
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Marie,
We dahlia nuts certainly share a lot of crazy stuff. A couple years ago=
it was so cold and wet at dahlia lifting time that we tried everything to =
shorten the length of time that one had to stand out in the rain to wash di=
rt off the tubers. How about hooking up the pressure washer? I thought it w=
ould scrub the skin right off the tubers but it really worked quite well. D=
o not spray too close to the tubers as it can cause a lot of damage.
Del L. Knowlton
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Marie Ohlson"
Reply-To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
To:
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:52:41 +0200
the same thoughts but different people! It=B4s the same here in Swede=
n. I always have ideas about getting all the job done easier.... This yea=
r I have used compressed air getting the dirt of the tubers.
regards from MARIE
----- Original Message -----
From: LARRY TERESA BERGMAN
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Thank you so much for that info, Buddy. The thing I love most about=
this
group is the willingness to share information and help each other l=
earn
better ways to do things. Where do you buy the netting? I really lo=
ok
forward to seeing the pictures. Aren't we a crazy bunch? I haven't =
even
cut down a dahlia plant yet and am planning how to do things for ne=
xt year.
I must admit, though, as soon as I got things planted this year, I =
started
thinking about how to do them better next year.
Teresa
----Original Message Follows----
From: deanbke@aol.com
Reply-To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:35:08 EDT
Teresa,
I know I've got pics somewhere & will try to send one. I space mine
alittle wider that other people. With the netting @ 4' wide I space=
my
pots at
18' apart across the row & trowel length down the length. Two rows =
of
netting per block. One at about 18" high the next around 30". I use=
the
pot roots
and seedling(both grown through netting) for the cut flower market.=
I
think
for next yr we will also grow poms in the netting. Spreading plants=
with
no
tying & the foliage is small enough to pull through the netting. Of=
course
the spacing would be about 2 ft. 3000' ft is about $275 and is well=
worth
the expenditure. I would spend more $ than that just in tying time.=
I do
not
reuse. At the end of the season I dispose of it along with the tops=
of the
plants.
Another thought......a probably reality for next season. I might bu=
y
netting that is 6' wide and cut into two pieces 3' wide. I had prob=
lems
with
the middle row of plants not getting enough care. Next season proba=
bly 2
rows
wide instead of 3 for better manageability.
Time to dig, dig, dig, dig, dig,...........
Buddy Dean
Hilltop Gardens, Inc.
Cashiers, NC
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=20=20
We don't get free roots here...A lot of times we have to pay to get in too.
Cristy
----- Original Message -----
From: deanbke@aol.com
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
In a message dated 10/19/2006 9:28:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, larryte=
resa@msn.com
Thank you so much for that info, Buddy. The thing I love most about thi=
s
group is the willingness to share information and help each other learn=
better ways to do things. Where do you buy the netting? I really look
forward to seeing the pictures. Aren't we a crazy bunch? I haven't even=
cut down a dahlia plant yet and am planning how to do things for next y=
ear.
I must admit, though, as soon as I got things planted this year, I star=
ted
thinking about how to do them better next year.
Teresa
This group is for sharing and learning. I learn a tidbit quiet frequentl=
y from others on the group. Some info is old hat that just needs some twee=
king. When you stop learning you have given up on life. I teach the kids =
in all of my groups that life is a learning experience and they should stri=
ve to learn something new everyday even it's just a different way to tie th=
eir shoes. I'll say it again that everyone needs to lure a child into the =
shows. They are the ones that we will be relying on in the future. Free r=
oots, a helping hand when needed & a giant rosette to show off to their fri=
ends sometimes is all that is needed.
Buddy Dean
Hilltop Gardens, Inc.
Cashiers, NC
=20=20
Thank you so much for that info, Buddy. The thing I love most about this=
group is the willingness to share information and help each other learn
better ways to do things. Where do you buy the netting? I really look
forward to seeing the pictures. Aren't we a crazy bunch? I haven't even
cut down a dahlia plant yet and am planning how to do things for next yea=
r.
I must admit, though, as soon as I got things planted this year, I starte=
d
thinking about how to do them better next year.
Teresa
----Original Message Follows----
From: deanbke@aol.com
Reply-To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:35:08 EDT
Teresa,
I know I've got pics somewhere & will try to send one. I space mine
alittle wider that other people. With the netting @ 4' wide I space my
pots at
18' apart across the row & trowel length down the length. Two rows of
netting per block. One at about 18" high the next around 30". I use the
pot roots
and seedling(both grown through netting) for the cut flower market. I
think
for next yr we will also grow poms in the netting. Spreading plants with=
no
tying & the foliage is small enough to pull through the netting. Of cours=
e
the spacing would be about 2 ft. 3000' ft is about $275 and is well worth
the expenditure. I would spend more $ than that just in tying time. I do=
not
reuse. At the end of the season I dispose of it along with the tops of th=
e
plants.
Another thought......a probably reality for next season. I might buy
netting that is 6' wide and cut into two pieces 3' wide. I had problems
with
the middle row of plants not getting enough care. Next season probably 2=
rows
wide instead of 3 for better manageability.
Time to dig, dig, dig, dig, dig,...........
Buddy Dean
Hilltop Gardens, Inc.
Cashiers, NC
=20=20
Marie,
We dahlia nuts certainly share a lot of crazy stuff. A couple years ago i=
t was so cold and wet at dahlia lifting time that we tried everything to sh=
orten the length of time that one had to stand out in the rain to wash dirt=
off the tubers. How about hooking up the pressure washer? I thought it wou=
ld scrub the skin right off the tubers but it really worked quite well. Do =
not spray too close to the tubers as it can cause a lot of damage.
Del L. Knowlton
---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-
From: "Marie Ohlson"
Reply-To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
To:
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 17:52:41 +0200
the same thoughts but different people! It=B4s the same here in Sweden.=
I always have ideas about getting all the job done easier.... This year =
I have used compressed air getting the dirt of the tubers.
regards from MARIE
----- Original Message -----
From: LARRY TERESA BERGMAN
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Thank you so much for that info, Buddy. The thing I love most about t=
his
group is the willingness to share information and help each other lea=
rn
better ways to do things. Where do you buy the netting? I really look=
forward to seeing the pictures. Aren't we a crazy bunch? I haven't ev=
en
cut down a dahlia plant yet and am planning how to do things for next=
year.
I must admit, though, as soon as I got things planted this year, I st=
arted
thinking about how to do them better next year.
Teresa
----Original Message Follows----
From: deanbke@aol.com
Reply-To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
To: dahlias@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [dahlias] Pot roots
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:35:08 EDT
Teresa,
I know I've got pics somewhere & will try to send one. I space mine
alittle wider that other people. With the netting @ 4' wide I space m=
y
pots at
18' apart across the row & trowel length down the length. Two rows of
netting per block. One at about 18" high the next around 30". I use t=
he
pot roots
and seedling(both grown through netting) for the cut flower market. I=
think
for next yr we will also grow poms in the netting. Spreading plants w=
ith
no
tying & the foliage is small enough to pull through the netting. Of c=
ourse
the spacing would be about 2 ft. 3000' ft is about $275 and is well w=
orth
the expenditure. I would spend more $ than that just in tying time. I=
do
not
reuse. At the end of the season I dispose of it along with the tops o=
f the
plants.
Another thought......a probably reality for next season. I might buy
netting that is 6' wide and cut into two pieces 3' wide. I had proble=
ms
with
the middle row of plants not getting enough care. Next season probabl=
y 2
rows
wide instead of 3 for better manageability.
Time to dig, dig, dig, dig, dig,...........
Buddy Dean
Hilltop Gardens, Inc.
Cashiers, NC
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---
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=20=20
Sometimes when I am feeling lazy or just short of time, I don't wash the di= rt off the tubers. Don't cut them up either. Just trim off the trash, let th= em dry dirt and all, then stuff them in a big tub for the winter. Works fine, but it is a pain in the spring dealing with all those dried crunchy stems.= =20 Tex On 10/19/2006, "Del Knowlton" wrote: > > > > > > > > >
