apple cider was celebrating the season

updated mon 9 oct 06

Elizabeth on mon 9 oct 06

It said pasteurized, so I think that makes it ok?

Elizabeth
tiarella@bellsouth.net
Zone 6, KY
Gardens Listowner
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Gardening
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Ophioscorodon
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:54 PM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Celebrating the Season

> We're having a bonfire and cookout tonight, complete with hot dogs, =
baked
> beans, chips, fresh apple cider from a local orchard

Elizabeth, I've never had much success growing hot dogs, and I didn't
know you had Buffalo Chips out there. So do you wrap the hot dog in
the Buffalo Chip? Or eat them separately?

Seriously, the FDA, in 1998, issued a warning statement that fresh
apple cider may contain E. Cole 0157:H7 contamination. As a side
note, I just finishing reading "The Omnivore's Dilemma",
where Michael Lewis tells how cows feed on their evolutionary diet,
grass, have an alkaline stomach. Thus their bacteria, like E. Coli,
are killed in human acid stomachs. But corn fed cows result in acid
stomachs and the deadly E. Cole 0157:H7 evolved there. Now resistant
to our stomach acid, the mostly harmless bacteria of cows before
1980, a hamburger can be a deadly Jack in the Box meal.

This is the famous vector for the spinach and lettuce problems, all
because it is much cheaper to fed cows corn and antibiotics than
grass. Just make sure the apple farm has no cows!

-jam

karen on mon 9 oct 06

Can't even get unpasteurized cider any longer around these parts -- I think
that means you can't make hard cider from it. We used to get unpasteurized
at a cider/doughnut stand on King Street near Westchester Country airport...
hot fresh doughnuts, lord were they delicious, with that thick cider that
had just been made... those days are gone... now carrot juice is on
the news re e.coli outbreak. I think that we are getting sloppy and
inattentive about the food industry in this country... or -- hiring people
that don't give a s#*t about their jobs because their wages are so low they
don't care one way or another.

karen, nj getting a bit political

It said pasteurized, so I think that makes it ok?

Elizabeth
tiarella@bellsouth.net
Zone 6, KY
Gardens Listowner
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-Gardening

Ophioscorodon
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:54 PM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Celebrating the Season

> We're having a bonfire and cookout tonight, complete with hot dogs, baked
> beans, chips, fresh apple cider from a local orchard

Elizabeth, I've never had much success growing hot dogs, and I didn't
know you had Buffalo Chips out there. So do you wrap the hot dog in
the Buffalo Chip? Or eat them separately?

Seriously, the FDA, in 1998, issued a warning statement that fresh
apple cider may contain E. Cole 0157:H7 contamination. As a side
note, I just finishing reading "The Omnivore's Dilemma",
where Michael Lewis tells how cows feed on their evolutionary diet,
grass, have an alkaline stomach. Thus their bacteria, like E. Coli,
are killed in human acid stomachs. But corn fed cows result in acid
stomachs and the deadly E. Cole 0157:H7 evolved there. Now resistant
to our stomach acid, the mostly harmless bacteria of cows before
1980, a hamburger can be a deadly Jack in the Box meal.

This is the famous vector for the spinach and lettuce problems, all
because it is much cheaper to fed cows corn and antibiotics than
grass. Just make sure the apple farm has no cows!

-jam