black mondo grass

updated mon 5 sep 05

eczekalski on thu 27 mar 03

Linda gave me some plugs of black mondo grass. The ones that I planted
under the Miscanthus were protected because the Miscanthus was flattened
to cover them. They look very black but not damaged. Leave them alone?

Esther

Linda Baranowski-Smith on thu 27 mar 03

From experience, leave them alone... unless you want to move them.
It's too early to determine anything other than if they're dead, the
color turns to brown, not black. I'm guessing you're removing last
season's Miiscanthus?
Linda in NW Ohio, getting ready to prune grapes now that apple tree
pruning is almost done.

eczekalski on thu 27 mar 03

Yes, cutting back the Miscanthus. It also flopped on the Meidland
carpet rose that I planted on the sun side. It protected it well but
also broke some stems. No heartbreak, I want it to spread horizontally
anyway. I took the weight of the Miscanthus off but didn't finish the
cleanup. We are still too wet to use the rake or to stomp around much
in flower beds and could still have cold weather. I have standing
clumps of snow still and I suspect frozen ground in places. We had a
gentle rain last night and it actually is drier today, I suspect it
thawed some of the underlying frost.

But it's soooo nice to be puttering.
Esther

Linda Baranowski-Smith
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:57 AM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: black mondo grass

From experience, leave them alone... unless you want to move them.
It's too early to determine anything other than if they're dead, the
color turns to brown, not black. I'm guessing you're removing last
season's Miiscanthus?
Linda in NW Ohio, getting ready to prune grapes now that apple tree
pruning is almost done.

> Linda gave me some plugs of black mondo grass. The ones that I planted
> under the Miscanthus were protected because the Miscanthus was
flattened
> to cover them. They look very black but not damaged. Leave them
alone?

Margaret E. Millard on thu 27 mar 03

Hi Linda, How are you?
About to prune grapes? Have you any suggestions for me?
I have a big sprawling one that has never been pruned or trained other
than we had to cut about 40' off the branches closest to the house last
year as it was threatening to eat it. (we didn't really expect it to
grow very well) It is a way out of control. Also the frame under it
isn't going to last another winter so we want to reconstruct that.
To get to the part that needs most repair I would have to start pruning
back near the main branches. How ruthless can I get without killing the
thing? Can I cut it back to the main trunks? There are three. then there
are laterals coming off those that wind all in and around. Seems one
year it wants to grow west the next it grows east.
I can walk in under the frame quite freely, it makes a roof over the
former herb bed, which is now our outdoor sitting area. Very private but
everything under is dying due to lack of light I expect.
I would hate to kill this but now the snow is melted enough that I can
get out there, I have to do something.

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Arnhild Bleie on sat 3 sep 05

Ophiopogon planiscapus 'Niger' is a new plant I got and have never seen in
use anywhere ..
it is not a real grass and I can read on net etc - but not people's real
practical experiences - so it would be good to something about it?
How fast is it spreading and can it take some sun, soilpreferences and
fertilizing you do , dividing etc ?

"All the flowers of all tomorrows are in the seeds of today!"
Arnhild Bleie - Hardanger in Norway

****************************************
Half the interest of a garden is the
constant exercise of the imagination.
~~Mrs. C.W. Earle
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edie carlson on sat 3 sep 05

same here. It lasted for two seasons, finally died out. Never did figure
out what was wrong. I have very mild winters, temperature under 32 F for
only a week or 2
Edie
PNW

Linda gave me a couple of starts of this. It hasn't spread much, takes a
beating in my zone 5/6 winters. In fact, the patch that I planted next to a
couple of other grasses has died out after two winters. A patch in the
hosta is surviving but not spreading. I haven't found the right place for it
either as it doesn't show up very well.

Esther Czekalski

Bleie
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 3:25 AM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Black mondo grass

Ophiopogon planiscapus 'Niger' is a new plant I got and have never seen in
use anywhere ..
it is not a real grass and I can read on net etc - but not people's real
practical experiences - so it would be good to something about it?
How fast is it spreading and can it take some sun, soilpreferences and
fertilizing you do , dividing etc ?

"All the flowers of all tomorrows are in the seeds of today!"
Arnhild Bleie - Hardanger in Norway

****************************************
Half the interest of a garden is the
constant exercise of the imagination.
~~Mrs. C.W. Earle
****************************************

****************************************
Half the interest of a garden is the
constant exercise of the imagination.
~~Mrs. C.W. Earle
****************************************

****************************************
Half the interest of a garden is the
constant exercise of the imagination.
~~Mrs. C.W. Earle
****************************************

eczekalski on sat 3 sep 05

Linda gave me a couple of starts of this. It hasn't spread much, takes =
a
beating in my zone 5/6 winters. In fact, the patch that I planted next =
to a
couple of other grasses has died out after two winters. A patch in the
hosta is surviving but not spreading. I haven't found the right place =
for it
either as it doesn't show up very well.

Esther Czekalski

Arnhild
Bleie
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 3:25 AM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Black mondo grass

Ophiopogon planiscapus 'Niger' is a new plant I got and have never seen =
in
use anywhere ..
it is not a real grass and I can read on net etc - but not people's real
practical experiences - so it would be good to something about it?
How fast is it spreading and can it take some sun, soilpreferences and
fertilizing you do , dividing etc ?

"All the flowers of all tomorrows are in the seeds of today!"
Arnhild Bleie - Hardanger in Norway

****************************************
Half the interest of a garden is the
constant exercise of the imagination.
~~Mrs. C.W. Earle
****************************************

****************************************
Half the interest of a garden is the
constant exercise of the imagination.
~~Mrs. C.W. Earle
****************************************

Peg's Verizon Mail on sat 3 sep 05

I've been thinking of trying this stuff, too. Good to hear of people's
experiences with it. I've been holding back because I haven't got a
particular place or combo in mind... I thought it might look nice with
white or pink flowers.

Peg in RI

****************************************
Half the interest of a garden is the
constant exercise of the imagination.
~~Mrs. C.W. Earle
****************************************

Arnhild Bleie on sun 4 sep 05

> I've been thinking of trying this stuff, too. Good to hear of people's
> experiences with it. I've been holding back because I haven't got a
> particular place or combo in mind... I thought it might look nice with
> white or pink flowers.

I was thinking of combining it with something with grey leaves? - like
lambs ear or edelweiss, and I have another very fast spreading grey
perennial creeper do not remember name of right now. Maybe cool together
with some bluish hostas as well . or maybe Heucerha, green with a touch of
red in veins?

I read on Internet Mondo grass would like a bit moist soil with good
draining, and sun to half shade. And it is a plant belonging to the
Liliaceae family - bright pink lily or bell alike flowers. It is not a
bulb, it spreads with creeping roots under soil. Spreads very slowly.
I really hope they will survive here by me in a easy way - that mean no
winter protection etc .. I just have a too big garden and are too "lazy" to
cover a lot during winters.

I have a picture of Richmond as a mild coastal state so you should try it
too Peg ?

"All the flowers of all tomorrows are in the seeds of today!"
Arnhild Bleie - Hardanger in Norway

****************************************
Half the interest of a garden is the
constant exercise of the imagination.
~~Mrs. C.W. Earle
****************************************

Linda Baranowski-Smith on sun 4 sep 05

Arnhild, regarding Black Mondo Grass, it grows very nicely here.
Some of its offspring have reverted back to the green. We had lots
of Gaura (the white variety), that came back every year until we had
a very cold winter. My Houttuynia cordata 'Chameleon' died so I
cannot say whether it is invasive in my area. That's the
groundcover that was on the hillside at Schedel Gardens. Linda in NW
Ohio.

****************************************
Half the interest of a garden is the
constant exercise of the imagination.
~~Mrs. C.W. Earle
****************************************

Arnhild Bleie on mon 5 sep 05

> Arnhild, regarding Black Mondo Grass, it grows very nicely here.

And you have a heavy soil with high ph ?
- do you remember if the Mondo grass was growing in a wet or dry place?

Maybe the Chameleon do not like lime soil? Or would Schedel's have the
same kind of soil as you?

"All the flowers of all tomorrows are in the seeds of today!"
Arnhild Bleie - Hardanger in Norway

****************************************
Half the interest of a garden is the
constant exercise of the imagination.
~~Mrs. C.W. Earle
****************************************

Linda Baranowski-Smith on mon 5 sep 05

Our native soil is heavy clay with a neutral pH; the Mondo Grass is
in a raised bed with sandy loam for which I don't know the pH. I
also have pieces under pink roses which is heavy clay mulched many
years over. Again, I don't know the pH there. The plants get at
least half day sun and are watered when it rains. The terms "wet and
dry" are relative here. However, none of the plants are in wet
areas. Maybe that's bad.

You ask the tough questions. I don't know about the soil at Schedel.
That area has an unique geology which may mean the soil is different.
I have literature and if it says anything I'll pass the information
along soon. Linda in NW Ohio.

****************************************
Half the interest of a garden is the
constant exercise of the imagination.
~~Mrs. C.W. Earle
****************************************