Beverly Fizzell on tue 10 apr 01

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Thank you all very much for the great response to my toad questions. Could I
use an insecticidal soap? Toads don't usually eat dead bugs - I think they
can't see them maybe. The whiteflies are a huge problem, they actually are
vampire relatives or something - they actually killed off my cucumbers and my
tomatoes aren't doing so well either. A sticky mess they are. I have some
(tomatoes) in pots and the whiteflies leave when I take them out for fresh
air. The one growing in the beds are helpless. The air is so dry here and
the humidity is usually very low, like 10% sometimes. Our summer temperature
can get as high as 122. That is why I garden in my greenhouse. I had to
import soil, as what we have here is rocks and sand. I got 2 yards of garden
soil from a "soil place" that makes it out of stuff they get from the
fairgrounds and other places. I find bits of glass and what I know is
corners off of construction lumber, so it is hard to tell what it really is.
I think my garden is a sick atmosphere, not enough light etc. But you ought
to see my bell peppers and strawberries! I am enjoying your garden list.
Beverly

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Thank you all very much for the great response to my toad questions. Could I

use an insecticidal soap?  Toads don't usually eat dead bugs - I think they

can't see them maybe.  The whiteflies are a huge problem, they actually are

vampire relatives or something - they actually killed off my cucumbers and my

tomatoes aren't doing so well either.  A sticky mess they are.  I have some

(tomatoes) in pots and the whiteflies leave when I take them out for fresh

air.  The one growing in the beds are helpless.  The air is so dry here and

the humidity is usually very low, like 10% sometimes.  Our summer temperature

can get as high as 122.  That is why I garden in my greenhouse.  I had to

import soil, as what we have here is rocks and sand.  I got 2 yards of garden

soil from a "soil place" that makes it out of stuff they get from the

fairgrounds and other places.  I find bits of glass and what I know is

corners off of construction lumber, so it is hard to tell what it really is.

I think my garden is a sick atmosphere, not enough light etc.  But you ought

to see my bell peppers and strawberries!  I am enjoying your garden list.    

Beverly

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Mary Ann Mikulski on tue 10 apr 01

In a message dated 4/10/01 6:37:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Beverlyfz@AOL.COM writes:

<< The air is so dry here and
the humidity is usually very low, like 10% sometimes. Our summer temperature
can get as high as 122. That is why I garden in my greenhouse. I had to
import soil, as what we have here is rocks and sand. >>

My goodness, where are you located?

One organic, if time consuming, suggestion I have for getting your whiteflies
under control involves sticky yellow cardboard. I would hold the cardboard
near the infested plants, and wiggle the plants. This will cause the
whiteflies to swarm up off the plants. Catch as many as you can on the
sticky cardboard. Do this as often and with as many plants as you can.
You'll have to repeat it every day for as long as there are eggs hatching new
flies. Or maybe try a vacuum cleaner? Run the hose near the flies every day,
removing as many as you can.

Beverly Fizzell on tue 10 apr 01

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I live in Phoenix, Arizona, USA. Hot - Dry I have used the yellow card
before but I forgot about it. Actually I clipped a card covered with cooking
spray to a wire. It got so many whiteflies on it that it looked like
velvet. Then I noticed ants were taking off with the flies. They cleaned up
the whole thing and took their booty away! It was great for them - they were
already oiled and ready to eat. B

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I live in Phoenix, Arizona, USA.  Hot - Dry  I have used the yellow card

before but I forgot about it.  Actually I clipped a card covered with cooking

spray  to a wire.  It got so many whiteflies on it that it looked like

velvet.  Then I noticed ants were taking off with the flies.  They cleaned up

the whole thing and took their booty away!  It was great for them - they were

already oiled and ready to eat.   B

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Beverly Fizzell on tue 10 apr 01

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I had lady bugs but they left through holes I couldn't find. I also had
those parasite wasps and they vanished too. The real trouble comes from the
fact that the whiteflies overwinter in the greenhouse so they are there all
the time. I am going to work more diligently with the yellow cards. B

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I had lady bugs but they left through holes I couldn't find.  I also had

those parasite wasps and they vanished too.  The real trouble comes from the

fact that the whiteflies overwinter in the greenhouse so they are there all

the time.    I am going to work more diligently with the yellow cards.   B

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JT Thompson on wed 11 apr 01

Friend of mine had great success with store-bought ladybugs. I know someone=

on the list can give you an address. You just put the eggs in your
greenhouse, and voila, a couple of weeks later your whitefly are gone; the=

ladybugs (or ladybirds, as we call them here, or b=F3??n D??, God's Little=
Cow,
in Gaelic) stay on to breed and defend again.

> Thank you all very much for the great response to my toad questions. Could=
I

Patricia Ruggiero on wed 28 nov 01

Yes, they do. Fortunately we have an electric fence around our veg garden
and the cats won't enter unless one of us is already inside -- which means
we can keep an eye on them.

Deborah T's comments about foregoing toad houses were well said. In my
defense, I have to say that our veg garden doesn't have any moist or boggy
areas to keep toads happy. That's why I set up the flower pot and water
dish, to keep toads visiting, even if on an irregular basis. They do like
the mulched beds, many goodies for them.

Pat

Nancy asked:

"Before I try to house a toad, does anyone have experience with cats and
toads? Do the cats find them attractive prey?"

Glenn & Sonya on wed 9 jan 08

The idea of toads intrigues me. I live in Vancouver Washington and, to my k=
nowledge, have never seen a toad here. I guess they can be purchased at a m=
ore exotic pet store? Are toads territorial and like to stay in one place? =
I do not have a particularly bad slug problem but they do love to play havo=
c with my green beans. I am terminally jealous of Alan's garden, as I live =
on a hill and have had to cart by hand many tons of concrete blocks (really=
, tons!) to build up three raised platforms to have any kind of garden at a=
ll. Number four is in progress as we speak, but as I am beginning to add up=
the years on my old bod I only carry about 10 to 15 blocks per paycheck ba=
ck there, and that means that I may not have it in play until the fall, or =
possibly next year.

It is time to address my dormant raspberry vines. Should I whack them down =
to about 6 inches above ground, as someone has suggested, or should I just =
let them do what they do?

Glenn

SGcvn69 | www.beautipage.com/cindiwu on fri 11 jan 08

Whatever you do....DO NOT EVER RELEASE EXOTIC PETS!!! I am sure some sort o=
f
amphibian lives near you. I know my mom's house in Everett, WA had tons of
tree frogs. Call your local extension office or go to your library and find
out what the native wildlife is and attract the ones you want in your yard
instead.

On Jan 9, 2008 12:26 AM, Glenn & Sonya mcast.net>> wrote:

> The idea of toads intrigues me. I live in Vancouver Washington and, to my
> knowledge, have never seen a toad here. I guess they can be purchased at =
a
> more exotic pet store?

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Ken on fri 11 jan 08

Toads like dampness and a shelter area. I have a couple here, and have
some clay pots turned upside down, with a large chunk taken out of a
side and rim, so they have a little home. They don't like hot dry
areas or a lot of sunlight. I recall a big fat toad that found himself
a nice big hole in the trunk of a tree, where he sits all day just
waiting for a bug to go nearby. I think he got so fat, that he wasn't
able to easily get out of the hole anymore.

--- In Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups.comoups.com>, "SGcvn69 |
www.beautipage.com/cindiwu" wrote:

> Whatever you do....DO NOT EVER RELEASE EXOTIC PETS!!! I am sure some
sort of
> amphibian lives near you. I know my mom's house in Everett, WA had
tons of
> tree frogs. Call your local extension office or go to your library
and find
> out what the native wildlife is and attract the ones you want in
your yard
> instead.

> On Jan 9, 2008 12:26 AM, Glenn & Sonya wrote:

> The idea of toads intrigues me. I live in Vancouver Washington
and, to my
> knowledge, have never seen a toad here. I guess they can be
purchased at a
3

Kyrina on fri 11 jan 08

We lived in Western WA too and had LOTS of frogs and toads! The keys
to seeing them is to build them homes and places to make babies! They
also are very attracted to the sound of trickling water. We build a
pond in Central Cali where nearly everything was covered in concrete
or sprayed with Round-up and sure enough within a few months we had a
community of toads traveling between the pond and my garden. Even the
smallest trickle works(like the cheap solar pumps you can get off
ebay) and a small basin of shallow water.

Best of Luck!

Kyrina

--- In Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups.comoups.com>, "Glenn & Sonya"
wrote:

> The idea of toads intrigues me. I live in Vancouver Washington and,
to my knowledge, have never seen a toad here. I guess they can be
purchased at a more exotic pet store? Are toads territorial and like
to stay in one place? I do not have a particularly bad slug problem
but they do love to play havoc with my green beans. I am terminally
jealous of Alan's garden, as I live on a hill and have had to cart by
hand many tons of concrete blocks (really, tons!) to build up three
raised platforms to have any kind of garden at all. Number four is in
progress as we speak, but as I am beginning to add up the years on my
old bod I only carry about 10 to 15 blocks per paycheck back there,
and that means that I may not have it in play until the fall, or
possibly next year.

> It is time to address my dormant raspberry vines. Should I whack
them down to about 6 inches above ground, as someone has suggested, or
should I just let them do what they do?

Ken on fri 11 jan 08

My heavy hauling is done with a riding lawn mower, and a 2x4 foot
wagon towed behind it. I carry about 300 or more pounds of 'stuff' to
my back yard/garden, where its level, but have to drive uphill to get
to it. Wheelbarrows are not very helpful. Raspberries produce on their
second year canes, so cutting all down will not give you much. After
their berry bearing year, they can be cut down, but I usually wait for
the green buds and leaves to sprout, before cutting any that are not
showing any green. I also add some fruit tree fertilizer that is sold
by Gardens Alive, and my berries were producing more than twice the
amount, and twice the size of what they usually show up as. Mine are
thornless red raspberries.

--- In Organic_Gardening@yahoogroups.comoups.com>, "Glenn & Sonya"
wrote:

> The idea of toads intrigues me. I live in Vancouver Washington and,
to my knowledge, have never seen a toad here. I guess they can be
purchased at a more exotic pet store? Are toads territorial and like
to stay in one place? I do not have a particularly bad slug problem
but they do love to play havoc with my green beans. I am terminally
jealous of Alan's garden, as I live on a hill and have had to cart by
hand many tons of concrete blocks (really, tons!) to build up three
raised platforms to have any kind of garden at all. Number four is in
progress as we speak, but as I am beginning to add up the years on my
old bod I only carry about 10 to 15 blocks per paycheck back there,
and that means that I may not have it in play until the fall, or
possibly next year.

> It is time to address my dormant raspberry vines. Should I whack
them down to about 6 inches above ground, as someone has suggested, or
should I just let them do what they do?

SGcvn69 | www.beautipage.com/cindiwu on fri 11 jan 08

I think he got so fat, that he wasn't
> able to easily get out of the hole anymore.

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Jeff Strong on sat 12 jan 08

Glenn,
Ol' Buddy, just drive over the bridge and drop down into the Delta Park are=
a. There is a small slough there and there is one between Bridgetown Rd. an=
d Marine Drive. Bring a net with a long handle. Early morning or early even=
ing in Mid June or early July.Lots of toads.
Yes they are territorial for about 100 square feet.
jeff in Portland Oregon

Glenn & Sonya > wrote: The id=
ea of toads intrigues me. I live in Vancouver Washington and, to my knowled=
ge, have never seen a toad here. I guess they can be purchased at a more ex=
otic pet store? Are toads territorial and like to stay in one place? I do n=
ot have a particularly bad slug problem but they do love to play havoc with=
my green beans. I am terminally jealous of Alan's garden, as I live on a h=
ill and have had to cart by hand many tons of concrete blocks (really, tons=
!) to build up three raised platforms to have any kind of garden at all. Nu=
mber four is in progress as we speak, but as I am beginning to add up the y=
ears on my old bod I only carry about 10 to 15 blocks per paycheck back the=
re, and that means that I may not have it in play until the fall, or possib=
ly next year.

It is time to address my dormant raspberry vines. Should I whack them down =
to about 6 inches above ground, as someone has suggested, or should I just =
let them do what they do?

Glenn

Jeff Strong on sat 12 jan 08

Yea I just saw a Toad on Animal planet that stands 18 inches tall and weigh=
s in at 30 pounds and lives in South America,eats small animals. That would=
solve the rat problem and the dog problem and cat problem and ............=
.RRRRRRRIVBURP!!
jeff

"SGcvn69 | www.beautipage.com/cindiwu" 69yahoo%40gmail.com>> wrote: Whatever you do....DO NOT EVER RELEASE EXOTIC =
PETS!!! I am sure some sort of
amphibian lives near you. I know my mom's house in Everett, WA had tons of
tree frogs. Call your local extension office or go to your library and find
out what the native wildlife is and attract the ones you want in your yard
instead.

On Jan 9, 2008 12:26 AM, Glenn & Sonya mcast.net>> wrote:

> The idea of toads intrigues me. I live in Vancouver Washington and, to my
> knowledge, have never seen a toad here. I guess they can be purchased at =
a
> more exotic pet store?

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SGcvn69 | www.beautipage.com/cindiwu on sun 13 jan 08

I've seen those on tv! I wonder they just make them a pet down there? Put a
collar on one? lol

On Jan 11, 2008 9:11 PM, Jeff Strong f_faithwalker%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

> Yea I just saw a Toad on Animal planet that stands 18 inches tall and
> weighs in at 30 pounds and lives in South America,eats small animals. Tha=
t
> would solve the rat problem and the dog problem and cat problem and
> .............RRRRRRRIVBURP!!
> jeff

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> -i have a family of frogs or toads that have moved into my hot tub
> brown and green ones
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Eileen on mon 14 jan 08

We have a natural pond here in the middle of our driveway, we put it
there, because otherwise we'd never get a car thru here. We have a
seasonal creek also, and I seeded the pond with tadpoles and rush and
cattails from the creek, so the following spring I had both leopard
frogs and toads in abundance. The toadlets, when they made the
migration to the woods, passed thru my 30x50 garden, and you could not
walk without stepping on them, I had to shuffle my feet, walk real
slow. Then after a few weeks, there were only a few left in the
garden, they are a couple years old now and still hanging out.
I also second the motion to only get native toads, don't import any
cane toads or somthing like that, your dogs will get killed and you'll
have strange teenagers sneaking around, trying to lick your toads....lol
Eileen in NE WA

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Eileen on mon 14 jan 08

Our toads used to live under our hot tub (when we had it, before it
died from an overly expensive malfunction) and they would try to eat
the rolling drops of water off your feet when you stepped out and were
drying off. Silly critters!
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SGcvn69 | www.beautipage.com/cindiwu on mon 14 jan 08

LOL forgot about that ;)

and you'll
> have strange teenagers sneaking around, trying to lick your toads....lol
> Eileen in NE WA

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SGcvn69 | www.beautipage.com/cindiwu on mon 14 jan 08

Ewwww!!! That's gotta tickle! LOL

they would try to eat
> the rolling drops of water off your feet when you stepped out and were
> drying off. Silly critters!
> Eileen

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