brugmansia sucess and failure!

updated wed 30 aug 00

Marie Woodson on tue 29 aug 00

I finally got a *real* Brugmansia to bloom! This is quite an accomplishment
for me.
I read about them for the first time on this list a couple years back.
Ordered seed from Thompson&Maorgan Spring of 1999..Planted them in
greenhouse...grew them outside all last summer. Had one to bloom..a white
and purple combination..no more all summer. Kept them in greenhouse all
winter where the same one bloomed again..with flowers looking up I should
add. This spring outside again, the purple and white one bloomed again. When
I compared this one to the Jimson weed that came up near the vegetable garden
I saw they were almost alike.
I purchased a Angel
Trumpet( the person selling it told me) at the local Flea mkt. So this is the
one that is now blooming..with flowers hanging down. The leaves are very
different from the ones that I have grown from the seed from T&M. I think
this is what a Burgmansia should look like??
I wrote T&M and they wrote and ask if I wanted the seed replaced/or what?
I took the seed. I had ordered the Double Golden Queen last year. So they
sent me a replacement pkt of this seed. Even though I ordered the Golden
Yellow I ended up with thepurple/white plant and 4 others that never have
bloomed!!! I am not sure I want to bother with trying to grow from the
seed they sent or not??? I don't want to take up my time and effort on
something that looks like a weed!!
Does anyone have an opinion on this?
Has anyone else ordered these seed and if so how did they turn out?
Would the plants grown from seed be different than the one grown from a
rooted plant as the one I purchased is?
Marie (upstate S.C.)

Deborah Green on tue 29 aug 00

I had seed from T & M that was supposed to be white hanging blooms and got
the upward facing type, too, but this was several years ago. I went the
rooted cutting route this year, but mine (supposedly pink) still hasn't
bloomed.

Debbie in Williamsburg, VA

Woodson
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 8:20 PM
To: GARDENS@lsv.uky.edu
Subject: Brugmansia sucess and failure!

I finally got a *real* Brugmansia to bloom! This is quite an accomplishment
for me.
I read about them for the first time on this list a couple years back.
Ordered seed from Thompson&Maorgan Spring of 1999..Planted them in
greenhouse...grew them outside all last summer. Had one to bloom..a white
and purple combination..no more all summer. Kept them in greenhouse all
winter where the same one bloomed again..with flowers looking up I should
add. This spring outside again, the purple and white one bloomed again. When
I compared this one to the Jimson weed that came up near the vegetable
garden
I saw they were almost alike.
I purchased a Angel
Trumpet( the person selling it told me) at the local Flea mkt. So this is
the
one that is now blooming..with flowers hanging down. The leaves are very
different from the ones that I have grown from the seed from T&M. I think
this is what a Burgmansia should look like??
I wrote T&M and they wrote and ask if I wanted the seed replaced/or what?
I took the seed. I had ordered the Double Golden Queen last year. So they
sent me a replacement pkt of this seed. Even though I ordered the Golden
Yellow I ended up with thepurple/white plant and 4 others that never have
bloomed!!! I am not sure I want to bother with trying to grow from the
seed they sent or not??? I don't want to take up my time and effort on
something that looks like a weed!!
Does anyone have an opinion on this?
Has anyone else ordered these seed and if so how did they turn out?
Would the plants grown from seed be different than the one grown from a
rooted plant as the one I purchased is?
Marie (upstate S.C.)

Arnhild Bleie on wed 30 aug 00

I have one Brugmansia blooming for near two months now - new flowers are
comming all the time. It started as a cutting last summer, and then it did
not bloom before late in fall, maybe started about this time. This year
they started in beginning of July. They are cream white of colour and
hanging - the plant is rather high - about 1 m (3.3 feet?) and do not look
like it will stop growing .. :) .. a spiecy-citrus frangance in
evenings/nights.

I have not tried it from seeds myself - but it sounds to me that it is
rather messed up with both Datura (upright flowers) and Brugmansia (hanging
flowers) in package unless these two crosspollinate and we get both looking
plants from the seeds?
- and I can understand you do not want to use engery on complaining to T&M
- but they really should know and take more care - or tell about different
results in seedlings.
And you are right about the offspring from seeds Marie - for most plants
the rule is: if it is not a true specie I think you are not sure to get
seedlings that are alike the mother? You could risk anything they are able
to cross to - the seed package only tells who the mother was. This can be
exciting sometimes, sometime not - and most of the time you also get
seedlings/plants of less interest beside the nice one.

:) Arnhild - z8'er in chilly latitude 60 - Hardanger in Norway
*All the flowers of all the of tomorrows are in the seeds of today*