Hello Organic Friends,
I was waiting to see if anybody else would post the "official" names for
beans in the discussion of Scarlet Runner beans, since I have had many
people bite my head off for knowing and using them. But, I am willing
to bet that this group won't. They are useful, especially in
conversation with people from other countries from one's own, since they
are vastly more standardized worldwide.
What we in the USA, probably North America, call "Scarlet Runner" beans
are **Phaseolus coccineus** These are twining, climbing beans with
pretty red flowers, and are ofter grown as an ornamental, although they
may also be eaten. Not only the vines, but the large speckled pods and
the large broad speckled beans are very pretty. These are perennial in
warm climates, but not where I live.
Most of the beans grown for food in the US are **Phaseolus vulgaris**,
of which there are uncounted varieties, some bush type and some
climbers. Fresh beans are almost certain to be of this highly variable
type.
These genus and species names should be italicized or underlined (not
both) to be proper, but I don't know how to do it, if it is possible, in
the mail reader (Netscape 3.0 Gold, Windows 3.11). If anybody can tell
me, I'd be grateful to hear it.
I just love the whole bean and legume family, so post your bean stories
right here! Anybody out there growing cowpeas, garbanzos, limas, favas,
or black-eyed peas?
Loren Muldowney
-who is a lot better at naming the plants than at growing any of them!
Hi Loren,
Okay, I'm brave (anyone who bites my head is going to get a mouthful of hair!)
so here's my partial list of bean species, I'm sure there's more than this,
isn't there?:
Dolichos lablab Hyacinth Bean
Glycine max Soy Bean
Phaseolus coccineus Runner Bean
Phaseolus lunatus Lima Bean
Phaseolus vulgaris (Pole|Bush) (Snap|Wax|Soup|Shelling) Bean
Vicia faba (Broad|Fava|Windsor) Bean
Vigna unguiculata sesquipedalis (Asparagus|Yardlong) Bean
Ahhh, head still on my shoulders so far ... ;-)
[...]
> These genus and species names should be italicized or underlined (not
> both) to be proper, but I don't know how to do it, if it is possible, in
> the mail reader (Netscape 3.0 Gold, Windows 3.11). If anybody can tell
> me, I'd be grateful to hear it.
This is accomplished easily through the use of "style tags" on either end of the
block of text. If your editor doesn't have the tool to do this for you
automatically you can simply add them in as you type.
Try this: _underlined text_ = "_underlined text_"
*bold text* = "*bold text*"
/italisized text/ = "/italisized text/"
#reverse text# = "#reverse text#"
_*/#All at once!#/*_ = "_*/#All at once!#/*_"
This is universal coding for mail/newsreaders so should appear correctly on
everyones' screens. Apologies to anyone who only got gobbligoop characters!
> I just love the whole bean and legume family, so post your bean stories
> right here! Anybody out there growing cowpeas, garbanzos, limas, favas,
> or black-eyed peas?
They are wonderful aren't they? Okay, here's a short bean story:
A number of years ago a long-time gardener from our area tried an experiment -
he crossed two of his favourite beans, Kentucky Wonder with Blue Lake. What he
ended up with was a prodigious pole snap bean he called "Kentucky Blue Wonder"
that does just superbly in our area. Being the caretaker of a large garden
which has fed his family for years he appreciated the value of what he'd done
and has given away the seed to many people, myself included, so that it
wouldn't vanish into obscurity. I've grown and saved seed from this great
variety for years now, and it's one of my favourite fresh beans, being
vigourous with long, tender and stringless pods (freezes great too!). Lo and
behold, several years after his cross, a new variety appreared in the seed
catalogs: Kentucky Blue, a cross between the same aforementioned varieties (this
is a few years ago now). It went on to become an All-America Selection winner.
While not exactly the same in result it was obvious that he was onto something
really good, and better adapted to our area than the commercial variety. So,
try a cross between your favourites and see what you might come up with! Keep
an eye open for "sports" in your bean patch too, those random mutations which
crop up with more regularity than we might think, they are sometimes
improvements over the origonals and worth preserving.
> Loren Muldowney
Cheers!
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| Bob Carter | Kootenay Bay, BC, Canada
| bcarter@awinc.com | Zone 6b
|____________________|
How many of you believe in telekinesis? Raise MY hand!
OK I am growing snowpeas and now this thread has got me thinking
about beans someone talked about black beans one of my favorite what
I would like to know is can you grow them in containers and how long
do they take (in other words is it to late) and how do they taste
fresh (never had them fresh) I love this list it has got me thinking
in so many new ways
Bob
Oh!
I've seen various notations in my in-coming mail (not as underlined,
italics, etc., just the signs) and often wondered what they meant.
They don't "work" on my system, but at least now I know what they /should/
be!
Derek
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Derek Knight, London UK
derek_knight@bigfoot.com
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> From: Bob Carter
> These genus and species names should be italicized or underlined (not
> both) to be proper, but I don't know how to do it, if it is possible,
in
> the mail reader (Netscape 3.0 Gold, Windows 3.11). If anybody can
tell
> me, I'd be grateful to hear it.
> This is accomplished easily through the use of "style tags" on either end
of the
Bob Carter wrote:
Well, nobody yelled yet! thanks!
Well, I can add only:
Cicer arientinum for chick peas/garbanzos
Lens esculenta lentils
Phaseolus aureus mung beans
Cajanus cajan pigeon peas
Pisum sativum garden peas
Arachides hypogaea peanuts
to round out the "bean" family. But how many of them are you growing?
I only have scarlet runners and some lovely pole beans.
Thanks for your delightful bean story. The importance of, and danger
to, genetic diversity in our food supply can hardly be overstated.
I highly recommend the
Seed Savers Exchange
3076 North Winn Road
Decorah, IA 52101
USA
to everyone interested in biodiversity and heirloom varieties. They
must have had at least 50 pages of TOMATO varieties from around the
world, their catalogue is a treasure and you'll go mad trying to decide
what to grow.
Loren
(snip)
Loren,
You've shown the italicizing just about absolutely-correctly! The current
convention in email/lists/etc. is to surround text to be italicized with
single asterisks. I don't think *any* mail readers can show underlining or
italicizing.
BTW- Thanks for telling the Latin names. I too am a bean lover!
Diane Ridout, Instructor, ACP.............................................
Kwantlen University College, "Talk
PO Box 9030 doesn't
Surrey, BC, Canada cook rice," they say.
Tel: (604) 599-2964 Voice mail 9837.......................................
This is good to know, Bob. I thought the asterisks were used for
italicization, but I bow to your obviously superior net-knowledge!!!
Thanks for adding to my knowledge, as you always do!
Diane Ridout, Instructor, ACP.............................................
Kwantlen University College, "Talk
PO Box 9030 doesn't
Surrey, BC, Canada cook rice," they say.
Tel: (604) 599-2964 Voice mail 9837.......................................
I'm not sure about your climate/growing season/etc. Rhyan, but here in the
Lower Mainland of BC I can sow snap/bush/pole beans up until the middle of
July. If we luck out and get the right weather, I can pick beans up until
about the middle of September or longer. (That is, if I'm not so sick of
them I could shriek!)
I imagine they'd be fine in a large-ish container, so long as they were
kept watered, but I've never tried it, myself.
Diane Ridout, Instructor, ACP.............................................
Kwantlen University College, "Talk
PO Box 9030 doesn't
Surrey, BC, Canada cook rice," they say.
Tel: (604) 599-2964 Voice mail 9837.......................................
Hi Diane,
> /italisized text/ = "/italisized text/"
> This is good to know, Bob. I thought the asterisks were used for
> italicization, but I bow to your obviously superior net-knowledge!!!
And I bow to your obviously superior spelling-knowledge!!! ;-)
> Thanks for adding to my knowledge, as you always do!
Welcome and ditto to you Diane, tis a pleasure.
:-)
Hope you are getting to enjoy the beautiful sunshine,
Bob
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| Bob Carter | Kootenay Bay, BC, Canada
| bcarter@awinc.com | Zone 6b
|____________________|
Not a real tagline, but an incredible soy substitute.
In a message dated 97-06-08 13:19:14 EDT, you write:
<< > Most of the beans grown for food in the US are **Phaseolus vulgaris**,
> of which there are uncounted varieties, some bush type and some
> climbers. Fresh beans are almost certain to be of this highly variable
> type.
> These genus and species names should be italicized or underlined (not
> both) to be proper, but I don't know how to do it, if it is possible, in
> the mail reader (Netscape 3.0 Gold, Windows 3.11). If anybody can tell
> me, I'd be grateful to hear it. >>
Hi:
Does anyone know where I can find the latin names of various seeds? I want to
send some seeds to New Zealand but need the latin names, so would appreciate
an URL where I can research this...I'm not sure how to search to find this
info, so even ideas on search terms would be appreciated...
TIA
LauraA
I have a neat book called _Dictionary of Plant Names_ (Timber Press)
by Allen Coombes. If you want more immediate answers feel free to email me
and I'll look up whatever you want.
Peg in cincinnati
Ahhh, yes, indeed! Which, by the way, is why I have not looked at my email
in three days and why I now have 258 messges in my inbox! Yikes!
Thank goodness I read/type _swiftly_!!
Diane Ridout, Instructor, ACP.............................................
Kwantlen University College, "Talk
PO Box 9030 doesn't
Surrey, BC, Canada cook rice," they say.
Tel: (604) 599-2964 Voice mail 9837.......................................
Laura Archbald wrote:
I presume you have checked with the Customs Dept here which seeds are OK
to send. Almost all flower seeds come in with no problems, but there is
a short prohibited list. Vegetable seeds of any sort are not allowed at
all without a special permit.
Moira
New Zealand
