I'd go for putting them both out when they fight. Then maybe Ari would learn that she has to tolerate him. Either that or maybe his own cat bed somewhere in the room?
Brenda
Date: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:05 am
Subject: OT cat behavior question
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
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I know there are a lot of cat people here.
Arabelle has started keeping Mickey out of the bed at night. He usually
comes in later. He likes to sit in my seat when I get up in the evening
and he will often sleep there for awhile after Ari and I go off to bed. =
But
until the last week or so I would wake up in the night and both would be
there; usually one on either side.
Now there is a fight when he comes in and even though he's almost twice
Ari's size he usually leaves. Actually he starts doing stuff that =
annoys me
and keeps me awake, like playing with the curtains until I have to put =
him
out and close the door. I _think_ it's because of Ari's aggressiveness,
only about 80% sure. Small possibility he has no intention of settling =
in
and sleeping but it's a behavior change. Also, if I let her, Ari would
drive him off of my lap but I don't let her. She gets plenty of love,
believe me. I guess I could put them both out when they fight.
Any suggestions?
Esther Czekalski
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
Hi Esther,
With the cats I've had over the years, they always seem to establish
some sort of seniority/pecking order. I've always thought it's more or
less natural, and unless one of them is getting physically hurt, I leave
them be.
Currently I have a 12 year old female (Kitten) that is small and a 3
year old male (Timmy) that is HUGE! The male defers to the female in
most things... like usually won't come on our bed if female is already
there with us. Usually, Kitten sleeps with me and dh, and Timmy usually
sleeps with my daughter.
When we first brought Timmy home, he and Kitten were about the same
size, and played/rolled around together a lot. Now that he is so much
bigger, Kitten doesn't care for the wrestling so much, so we only see it
occasionally. We do sometimes see the female bathing the male. Never the
other way around. In my opinion, they get along just fine, for cats.
So unless there's really nasty fighting going on... I would just let
them be cats. If one was literally chasing another off my lap, I
definitely wouldn't allow the "chaser" to then benefit. When I really
want to stop a particular behavior, I find the squirt gun works best.
(Although it can be difficult to have it handy when you need it most!)
Good luck.
Peg
eczekalski
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:05 PM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: OT cat behavior question
I know there are a lot of cat people here.
Arabelle has started keeping Mickey out of the bed at night. He usually
comes in later. He likes to sit in my seat when I get up in the evening
and he will often sleep there for awhile after Ari and I go off to bed.
But
until the last week or so I would wake up in the night and both would be
there; usually one on either side.
Now there is a fight when he comes in and even though he's almost twice
Ari's size he usually leaves. Actually he starts doing stuff that
annoys me
and keeps me awake, like playing with the curtains until I have to put
him
out and close the door. I _think_ it's because of Ari's aggressiveness,
only about 80% sure. Small possibility he has no intention of settling
in
and sleeping but it's a behavior change. Also, if I let her, Ari would
drive him off of my lap but I don't let her. She gets plenty of love,
believe me. I guess I could put them both out when they fight.
Any suggestions?
Esther Czekalski
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
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Yes, I leave them alone most of the time, the size difference worries me but
Ari is initiating the roughness as often as Mickey. I'm just not sure that
I want them fighting over me. There's enough to go around .
I'd actually read how females want to be dominant and that's why I chose a
well socialized little boy. I think he's teething, too; more like a dog
because he wants to chew on everything. But I know the solution to that:
toys, toys, toys.
Esther Czekalski
Verizon Mail
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:04 PM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
Hi Esther,
With the cats I've had over the years, they always seem to establish
some sort of seniority/pecking order. I've always thought it's more or
less natural, and unless one of them is getting physically hurt, I leave
them be.
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
Hi Esther,
I haven't had any cats in a long while but I did have
a mama cat and we kept one kitten that grew up with
her.
But never was the younger cat allowed to be higher on
the stairs than mama cat.
She was first. Both were female.
June
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
We were told to treat it like a "First Child" relationship whenever we got a
new kitten or puppy.
The jealousy can be the same. They want more privileges, some special
treatment.
It doesn't have to be a big deal but maybe Ari has picked the bed to make
her stand, so to speak.
jo
From: "June Dean"
To:
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
it is also territorial season, even with neutered cats. Her spot will be her
spot. Queens I have found can really back off a male by either all out knock
down or just by picking.
My two a female and a male, can get along alright and now he is teasing
at night and they are squabbling over spots. If you figure a way to stop it,
let me know....
Marg in N.S. Zone 6b
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/mmillard/index.html
I know there are a lot of cat people here.
Arabelle has started keeping Mickey out of the bed at night. He usually
comes in later. He likes to sit in my seat when I get up in the evening
and he will often sleep there for awhile after Ari and I go off to bed. But
until the last week or so I would wake up in the night and both would be
there; usually one on either side.
Now there is a fight when he comes in and even though he's almost twice
Ari's size he usually leaves. Actually he starts doing stuff that annoys me
and keeps me awake, like playing with the curtains until I have to put him
out and close the door. I _think_ it's because of Ari's aggressiveness,
only about 80% sure. Small possibility he has no intention of settling in
and sleeping but it's a behavior change. Also, if I let her, Ari would
drive him off of my lap but I don't let her. She gets plenty of love,
believe me. I guess I could put them both out when they fight.
Any suggestions?
Esther Czekalski
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
Ha! John lurks and then when there's something he can stir up a controversy over, out he pops!
Brenda
Date: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
Ha!
Esther Czekalski
Harman
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:40 PM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
Quoting eczekalski
> I know there are a lot of cat people here.
> Arabelle has started keeping Mickey out of the bed at night. > Any
suggestions?
cure,
it's in the blood.
John
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
She is so funny. She will walk up to his face stare intently and rear =
up
(don't know why they say that, it's her front that's up) with one paw in =
the
air. He either leaps away like that was his intent all the time or the
fight begins.
Esther Czekalski
Margaret
E.Millard
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:51 PM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
it is also territorial season, even with neutered cats. Her spot will be =
her
spot. Queens I have found can really back off a male by either all out =
knock
down or just by picking.
My two a female and a male, can get along alright and now he is =
teasing
at night and they are squabbling over spots. If you figure a way to stop =
it,
let me know....
Marg in N.S. Zone 6b
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/mmillard/index.html
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
I would love to know the ritual meanings. There are a number that I have
figured but the others have me baffled.
I sometimes would like to let them duke it out once they get into it big
time, but the vet bills could be horrific. Both were ferrules and are
pretty fierce at times. The neat part is how they work together when they
want something. They have different moves when they want something from me
than if they want something from Steve. Then in the am when they want him up
and me not...a whole new ball game!
No way to mistake it, we are here to serve their needs and after having
gotten treated so badly, I figure they need some spoiling .The question
becomes how much?
Marg in N.S. Zone 6b
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/mmillard/index.html
She is so funny. She will walk up to his face stare intently and rear up
(don't know why they say that, it's her front that's up) with one paw in the
air. He either leaps away like that was his intent all the time or the
fight begins.
Esther Czekalski
E.Millard
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:51 PM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
it is also territorial season, even with neutered cats. Her spot will be her
spot. Queens I have found can really back off a male by either all out knock
down or just by picking.
My two a female and a male, can get along alright and now he is teasing
at night and they are squabbling over spots. If you figure a way to stop it,
let me know....
Marg in N.S. Zone 6b
http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/mmillard/index.html
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
Quoting eczekalski
> I know there are a lot of cat people here.
> Arabelle has started keeping Mickey out of the bed at night. > Any
suggestions?
re,
it's in the blood.
John
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
There is a cat book written by a vet. that has an example of a at home
prepared all natural cat diet. While feeding raw meat to a cat would be
a natural diet, as Esther points out that cats can get sick from
bacteria and other problems in raw meat (including worms and splintered
chicken bones). Cats also need an ingredient called taurine for their
good health and this is not commonly available from raw meat. Here is
a URL about cat and dog food composition:
> http://www.stevesrealfood.com/facts/ingredients.htm
- Jenny
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eczekalski wrote:
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
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I have a friend who feeds her cat on a total raw foods diet. I emailed =
her to ask about this and to get the url to a good website that should =
have the answer to this and many other raw food cat diet questions.
Lee Ann, who learned long ago not to rise you your bait, you naughty =
boy!!!
Quoting BRENDA PINK
> Ha! John lurks and then when there's something he can stir up a =
controversy
I do have a serious cat question though. I have a new cat who =
is mad
about chicken. Some one told me to feed raw chicken wings. Any ideas??
John
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
Hi John, not a good time to accustom a cat to raw chicken. Cats can get
bird flu, too. I give mine a little when I make it for myself but I give
them cooked meat. If a cat likes chicken, they don't care what part of the
chicken it comes from.
Esther Czekalski
I do have a serious cat question though. I have a new cat who is
mad
about chicken. Some one told me to feed raw chicken wings. Any ideas??
John
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
Although I am a dog owner, I would suggest that you not feed anything =
with bones that could splinter. My dog was smaller than a cat and we =
only let her gnaw on big, beef bones. Once we gave her a bone that she =
could barely carry and she took it to her favourite denning place and =
guarded and gnawed for a couple of weeks.
Marion, zone 5, Hamilton
----- Original Message -----
From: John Harman
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
Quoting BRENDA PINK
> Ha! John lurks and then when there's something he can stir up a =
controversy
> over, out he pops!
> Brenda
> I'd have stopped this post right there. Typical female
> behaviour. No cure,
> it's in the blood.
> John
> Keeps you girls from getting too complacent.
I do have a serious cat question though. I have a new cat who =
is mad
about chicken. Some one told me to feed raw chicken wings. Any ideas??
John
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
You're just stirring us up again aren't you? :)
Brenda
Date: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:39 pm
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
> Keeps you girls from getting too complacent.
> I do have a serious cat question though. I have a new cat
> who is mad
> about chicken. Some one told me to feed raw chicken wings. Any ideas??
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
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On 3/20/06, at 4:04 PM, Peg's Verizon Mail mpgoter@VERIZON.NET said:
We acquired two kittens (Einstein, the male and Oreo, the female) 11
years ago. The mother simply left them in our yard and a neighbor's yard
-- even though their eyes weren't fully open. These two kittens
converted my wife from someone who didn't want pets into a catperson.
Einstein was a medium-sized cat and Oreo was a small cat. He bullied her
constantly. If she was in my wife's lap, he would often push her out and
take over the spot. He would chase her and it wasn't always play. He
developed an eating disorder and would steal his sister's food if he had
a chance. He had other (?) problems that the vet couldn't diagnose and
died a year ago. People asked if Oreo mourned the loss of her brother,
but the fact is that she has seemed very happy to be the only cat. She
still looks over her shoulder when getting treats to see if they are
likely to be stolen.
Tom Miller
.
.............................................
"Even a paranoid can have enemies."
Henry A. Kissinger
.................................................
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
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Good advice June. A friends dog got into some deer meat while on a walk. This was a deer that had died in the river valley here. Within minutes, the dog started seizuring and diagnosis was toxins in the decaying meat. Started a life long regime of anti-seizure medicating which the dog is still on.
Brenda
Date: Thursday, March 23, 2006 6:32 am
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
> My rule for leftover meat is that if I wouldn't
> eat it, I wouldn't give it to my dog either.
> June
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
There's quite a movement among pet owners to feed raw meat to hteir =
animals. A chicken wing (or neck) is often recommended. I'd take some or =
all of the skin off before feeding, though. Having said that, when I've =
tried raw meat on my cats, I just get That Look.
Gerry Strey
Madison, Wisconsin
> chook2002@AAPT.NET.AU 03/22/06 9:39 PM >>>
Quoting BRENDA PINK
> Ha! John lurks and then when there's something he can stir up a =
controversy
I do have a serious cat question though. I have a new cat who is =
mad
about chicken. Some one told me to feed raw chicken wings. Any ideas??
John
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
I know cats can eat uncooked bird meat etc,
but I wouldn't give it to my cat if I had one.
I have to watch my Shepherd with the bones-
I let him have huge bones, but I take them
away after he's eaten what there is and
got the center out. I boil them a few minutes
to make sure nothing is "alive" in the meat on
them.
He knows know to break the bones. He tosses
them up in the air and when they land on
the concrete, they break up.
An interesting peek into what he would be
in the wild.
I cook his food - I don't want any paracites
getting ahold of his digestive tract.
I buy fully cooked hot dogs, and I cook
the gizzards (he loves those) with rice
and add it to his regular chow.
I just got him a new toy to replace the bone
when I take it away - It's a fake branch -
he can toss it, chomp on it, and make up
games with it.
My rule for leftover meat is that if I wouldn't
eat it, I wouldn't give it to my dog either.
June
June
> Although I am a dog owner, I would suggest that you not feed anything with
bones that could splinter. My dog was smaller than a cat and we only let
her gnaw on big, beef bones. Once we gave her a bone that she could barely
carry and she took it to her favourite denning place and guarded and gnawed
for a couple of weeks.
controversy
is mad
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
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John,
Did the person who told you that have a good
reason for it? Seems like strange advice to me.
I cook up a chicken every now and then for my
Shepherd. I can get a nice little Perdue for
69 cents a pound - I put it in a big pyrex
bowl and roast it. No biggie.
I then take the nicer meat off it and treat
him with it. No wings. Too many bones,
and only the meat off the legs.
Gabe loves chicken too.
I value him and I'm sure you value your cat too.
June
> Quoting BRENDA PINK
> Ha! John lurks and then when there's something he can stir up a
controversy
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
Well, Esther, the proponents of the raw meat diets also suggest that pet =
owners buy organic meat, as its supposedly healthier (and more expensive!) =
I haven't followed the subject enough to know how they deal with the =
possibility of a cat or dog carrying partly-consumed morsels around the =
house, or what to so with left overs in the food dish on a hot day. The =
general theme seems to be that cats and dogs eat raw food in nature, =
therefore raw food in the home must be better for them.
Besides kibble and a small can of canned food per day, my cats get cooked =
beef, cooked chicken, cooked white fish, and canned tuna as supplements.
Gerry Strey
Madison, Wisconsin
> eczekalski@COMCAST.NET 03/23/06 8:47 AM >>>
Hi Gerry, what do they say about the risks of raw meat? As I've been
mulling over for a few days, diseases in fowl and meat are common. Not =
only
can they shorten the life of a pet but some can be transmitted to the =
pet's
family. Add the risks of unconsumed raw meat laying around in family =
areas;
I feed my cats in the kitchen, and I don't understand how it can be =
thought
to be safe. They must have encountered this objection before.
Esther Czekalski
Strey
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:19 AM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
There's quite a movement among pet owners to feed raw meat to hteir =
animals.
A chicken wing (or neck) is often recommended. I'd take some or all of =
the
skin off before feeding, though. Having said that, when I've tried raw =
meat
on my cats, I just get That Look.
Gerry Strey
Madison, Wisconsin
> chook2002@AAPT.NET.AU 03/22/06 9:39 PM >>>
Quoting BRENDA PINK
> Ha! John lurks and then when there's something he can stir up a
controversy
I do have a serious cat question though. I have a new cat who is
mad
about chicken. Some one told me to feed raw chicken wings. Any ideas??
John
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
Hi Gerry, what do they say about the risks of raw meat? As I've been
mulling over for a few days, diseases in fowl and meat are common. Not =
only
can they shorten the life of a pet but some can be transmitted to the =
pet's
family. Add the risks of unconsumed raw meat laying around in family =
areas;
I feed my cats in the kitchen, and I don't understand how it can be =
thought
to be safe. They must have encountered this objection before.
Esther Czekalski
Gerry
Strey
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:19 AM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
There's quite a movement among pet owners to feed raw meat to hteir =
animals.
A chicken wing (or neck) is often recommended. I'd take some or all of =
the
skin off before feeding, though. Having said that, when I've tried raw =
meat
on my cats, I just get That Look.
Gerry Strey
Madison, Wisconsin
> chook2002@AAPT.NET.AU 03/22/06 9:39 PM >>>
Quoting BRENDA PINK
> Ha! John lurks and then when there's something he can stir up a
controversy
I do have a serious cat question though. I have a new cat who =
is
mad
about chicken. Some one told me to feed raw chicken wings. Any ideas??
John
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
Reminds me of the time a dog we had about 20 years ago found the guts =
and body parts of a butchered deer in the woods. He ate the guts and =
brought home the stinking rotted leg. He threw it all up in the living =
room.
Anyone still want to question why I don't like hunting???? 8-))))
Lee Ann
Good advice June. A friends dog got into some deer meat while on a =
walk. This was a deer that had died in the river valley here. Within =
minutes, the dog started seizuring and diagnosis was toxins in the =
decaying meat. Started a life long regime of anti-seizure medicating =
which the dog is still on.
Brenda
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
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Brenda,
Ye Gads - things happen, don't they?
Gabe is very, very fast. But I can take
things out of his mouth without trouble.
He had a stalk of Iris in his mouth though,
and saw me coming, and he swallowed it like
a strand of spaghetti! And he got sick too.
Now, as he gets older, he is more cautious
about what is strange. He will sniff strange
treats and lick them a bit, and then decide if he
wants it. Then it is entered into his memory
bank. LOL
That dog may have grabbed the deer meat before
she could get to him.
June
> Good advice June. A friends dog got into some deer meat while on a walk.
This was a deer that had died in the river valley here. Within minutes,
the dog started seizuring and diagnosis was toxins in the decaying meat.
Started a life long regime of anti-seizure medicating which the dog is
still on.
*********************************************
We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
~~William Robinson
*********************************************
Not meaning to shoot the messenger here, you and I know that a poorly
managed organic operation can generate animals with salmonella and =
parasites
just as easily as a non-organic farm. And feral cats and dogs lives =
short
and miserable lives in our world.
Arabelle has never liked anything but kibble, and Mickey, who started =
out
eating anything, is following her lead. I still put out wet food or =
share
my rare meat meals but they've been sniffed at and ignored lately.
Esther Czekalski
Gerry
Strey
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:30 AM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
Well, Esther, the proponents of the raw meat diets also suggest that pet
owners buy organic meat, as its supposedly healthier (and more =
expensive!)
I haven't followed the subject enough to know how they deal with the
possibility of a cat or dog carrying partly-consumed morsels around the
house, or what to so with left overs in the food dish on a hot day. The
general theme seems to be that cats and dogs eat raw food in nature,
therefore raw food in the home must be better for them.
Besides kibble and a small can of canned food per day, my cats get =
cooked
beef, cooked chicken, cooked white fish, and canned tuna as supplements.
Gerry Strey
Madison, Wisconsin
> eczekalski@COMCAST.NET 03/23/06 8:47 AM >>>
Hi Gerry, what do they say about the risks of raw meat? As I've been
mulling over for a few days, diseases in fowl and meat are common. Not =
only
can they shorten the life of a pet but some can be transmitted to the =
pet's
family. Add the risks of unconsumed raw meat laying around in family =
areas;
I feed my cats in the kitchen, and I don't understand how it can be =
thought
to be safe. They must have encountered this objection before.
Esther Czekalski
Gerry
Strey
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:19 AM
To: GARDENS@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: OT cat behavior question
There's quite a movement among pet owners to feed raw meat to hteir =
animals.
A chicken wing (or neck) is often recommended. I'd take some or all of =
the
skin off before feeding, though. Having said that, when I've tried raw =
meat
on my cats, I just get That Look.
Gerry Strey
Madison, Wisconsin
> chook2002@AAPT.NET.AU 03/22/06 9:39 PM >>>
Quoting BRENDA PINK
> Ha! John lurks and then when there's something he can stir up a
controversy
I do have a serious cat question though. I have a new cat who =
is
mad
about chicken. Some one told me to feed raw chicken wings. Any ideas??
John
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One of our cats, (the one we actually bought and paid for!!) was fed raw
meat by the breeder.
She loved it and still does, if she manages to get any.
But that was over 15 years ago and I don't know if the breeder still does
it.
Funny thing--that cat always knows when REAL meat is on the table, not hot
dogs or sausage or anything mixed like that. She will unerringly show up ON
the table to check things out and have to be shooed off. At 15 she doesn't
move too fast and is sort of ornery about giving way.
jo
nj
I do have a serious cat question though. I have a new cat who is
mad
about chicken. Some one told me to feed raw chicken wings. Any ideas??
John
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
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Gabe knows the difference between the
hot dog (that he likes) and the real
chicken gizzards (that he **loves**).
The smell must be different.
June
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Quoting BRENDA PINK
> Ha! John lurks and then when there's something he can stir up a contro=
versy
I do have a serious cat question though. I have a new cat who is=
mad
about chicken. Some one told me to feed raw chicken wings. Any ideas??
John
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We may see on a spring day in one place more
beauty in a wood than in any garden.
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Hi all,
I used to be on a holistic cat list ( www.holisticat.com ) that was a
proponent of raw food for cats. There is also another list for raw food
for dogs but I don't know about that one. Being a vegetarian I wasn't
really interested tho I know cats eat the prey they catch. But that
website would probably give you lots of info. I feed the top of the
line canned as I don't have time to cook for my cats nor do they seem
interested. Gerry, it takes a bit of transition to get them to eat
raw. Those who do it swear by it as the healthiest diet for their cat.
Robin in western Mass.
Gerry Strey wrote:
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Quoting eczekalski
> Hi John, not a good time to accustom a cat to raw chicken. Cats can ge=
t
> bird flu, too. I give mine a little when I make it for myself but I gi=
ve
> them cooked meat. If a cat likes chicken, they don't care what part of=
the
> chicken it comes from.
> Esther Czekalski
Dead right there. I think I will stick to cooked
leftovers.
John
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