Are you ready for war? That's the mindset you need.... YOou must be
very precise in all your actions whilst waging the offen sive, lest you
contaminate yourself, your house, your car, etc.
Double wash your clothes and BLEACH.
Ther are coverup creams that are supposed to be a barrier.
Could slather up w/ waterproof sunscreen covered by
vaseline..........EEEUUUUUUUUU:>
I just winged that ...but I bet it would work
I hereby put that concoction into the public domain. Let me know if u
try and if it helps..
You must remove the ivy manually,
or mulch it/decompose to oblivion.
Prolly foot thick MINIMUM w/ several layers paper /cardboard/plywood
underneath.yes plywood...(scrap).
Compost dug in around plant(after cut back to a stub) along w/ seed
meal or other N source and lime (bnomore than 1 pound over ten square
feet((high calcium lime ,not dolomite)) as necessary to boost Ca fo the
biota that will multiply w/ the compost addition.No compost? get a bag
of steer manure from the home center( Double duty N, and compost, rolled
in to one)
Ivy is pure HELL, but a good challenge...everybody needs to do battle at
least once in life , gives ya character...
Rootin for ya
diego bill
Ian Stoba & Laurie Mandigo-Stoba wrote:
Did we recently discuss how to make poison ivy disappear on a permanent
basis? I seem to remember something but, then, I didn't realize I had a
side yard full of the stuff when I read that. Now I'm sitting around
itching and scratching and planning how to make the stuff go away forever.
Would, say, a patch of mint strangle it out? It's infesting a difficult
strip between a forsythia hedge and the brick wall of our house, only about
four feet deep, and blocked on either end by a largish blooming tree (don't
know what kind). You'd think it was remote enough for me to keep out of,
eh? Unfortunately, it has such a strong-hold in there that it's creeping
around the corner and straight into my veggies on one side, and up a gutter
pipe to the deck on the other. I feel like I've got radioactive waste in
the yard. Thanks for any ideas.
Regards, Laurie
Wappingers Falls, NY
Laurie Mandigo-Stoba wrote:
> Did we recently discuss how to make poison ivy disappear on a permanent
> basis? I seem to remember something but, then, I didn't realize I had a side
> yard full of the stuff when I read that. Now I'm sitting around itching and
> scratching and planning how to make the stuff go away forever.
I still have poison ivy despite composting heavily. It puts out horizontal
feeder roots out underneath the soil --everywhere. The poison ivy came into
our property from our neighbor's yard.
However, I found a couple temporary remedies while we both search for
solutions. 1) IVY BLOCK. Don't know what the ingredients are, but it helps
prevent the itch in the first place. And, if it's too late for IVY BLOCK, try
#2) HYTONE 1% Lotion (hydrocortisone) anti-itch lotion has been a blessing this
summer. The non-blessing for me is the company that makes it --a major
polluter. Whether or not they are making this product in Louisiana, I know
not. But they are poisoning life here.
Cheers,
Bunny
Hello to all...
The grind of finishing my masters thesis reduced me to a
lurker for a month or so but I now have passed my thesis defense and while
still busy working on a few manuscripts, I thought I'd share a few
comments on recent threads...
Poison ivy is an aggressive perennial but... you never find it in
agricultural
fields that receive annual tillage or in lawns that are regularly mowed.
In contrast, farmers are starting to find poison ivy, sumac, mulberries,
blackberries and other aggresssive perennial in some long term no-till
fields...
Poison ivy will grow in mint and it will survive for quite a while under
lots of mulch...
The simplest and most effective solution to controlling poison ivy is
to encourage a thick sod... You may need to reseed, fertilize,
water... or mowing regularly at 2-3 inches may be all that is
necessary...
Recent posts have suggested that an all out war mentally is needed
to accomplish various things (eliminate poison ivy, eliminate squash bugs,
eliminate negro bugs... )
We each have our own concept of organic growing but I suggest that any
organic gardener/grower that has goals of "eliminating" might want to
reconsider their concept of organic.
A recent post discussed frustration with trying to squash every single
squash bug egg...
Is zero tolerance of squash bugs necessary to achieve an acceptible harvest
of squash in your garden ?
Have you lost all your squashes to squash bugs in the past ?
Squash nymphs are much easier to squash than the eggs... I would suggest
that you should stop squashing the eggs on atleast one plant and observe
what happens... many predator insects like to eat eggs, nymphs or both...
When you are squashing eggs do you notice that spiders, lady bugs or
assassin bugs are also present on your foliage ? If not, why not ?
A few years ago I tried smothering the clusters of squash bug eggs with a
dab of vegetable oil... this seemed effective but it also was phytotoxic
to the leaves and caused patches of necrosis... perhaps a dab of compost
slurry on an egg cluster would cause the eggs to be come an organic
substrate for a hungry fungus...
I am constantly trying to think of new ways to put ecological
processes to work for me, especially when I feel the warrior urge welling
up in me upon discovering some serious pest damage...
I collected 28 different nectar feeding insects from a patch oregano
yesterday... I
felt bad killing them with alcohol but I am looking forward to getting an
entomologist friend to identify them...
Well... time to get back to work...
Joel
Joel I love the way your mind works..If you were closer I would love to show
you my totally no spray garden. where all insects are involved in a dance of
good vs "bad" (for lack of a better word) ..I think you would enjoy yourself
here and may get totally absorb into the world of New Hope Garden. (c:
In a message dated 7/22/99 8:18:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
stoba@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
I hate to say this but: the only true way to get rid of poison Ivy
permanently is to pull it up roots and all. That takes years. we have been
going at it now for 1.5 years and it's tuff becuase we are both sensitive and
get rashes. Me worse than my wife. We have hauled out 45 33 gallon garbage
bags stuffed with this ivy.
And still it is comeing up but no where near as bad. Our entire 1/4 acre
woods was knee deep with it and the trees were also. Now we have a small
woodland natural garden with wildflowers and path ways and benches. Very nice.
Round up is horrible stuff and we will not use it.
If you can find someone in your area that raises goats, see if you
can rent one for a few days. They eat poison-ivy like it's candy and will
actually fight each other over a patch. In my experience, they will eat it
to the ground and most will not return. Repeat this in the fall and next
spring and you should have it permanently gone.
Walker Bennett
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Editing is a rewording activity.
Did we recently discuss how to make poison ivy disappear on a permanent
basis? I seem to remember something but, then, I didn't realize I had a
side yard full of the stuff when I read that. Now I'm sitting around
itching and scratching and planning how to make the stuff go away forever.
Would, say, a patch of mint strangle it out? It's infesting a difficult
strip between a forsythia hedge and the brick wall of our house, only about
four feet deep, and blocked on either end by a largish blooming tree (don't
know what kind). You'd think it was remote enough for me to keep out of,
eh? Unfortunately, it has such a strong-hold in there that it's creeping
around the corner and straight into my veggies on one side, and up a gutter
pipe to the deck on the other. I feel like I've got radioactive waste in
the yard. Thanks for any ideas.
Regards, Laurie
Wappingers Falls, NY
An old post from Joel.
Pat
Behalf
Of Joel Brooks Gruver
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 10:42 PM
To: OGL@LSV.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: poison ivy outcompeting?
Poison ivy is an aggressive perennial but... you never find it in
agricultural fields that receive annual tillage or in lawns that are
regularly mowed. In contrast, farmers are starting to find poison ivy,
sumac, mulberries, blackberries and other aggresssive perennial in some =
long
term no-till fields...
Poison ivy will grow in mint and it will survive for quite a while under
lots of mulch...
The simplest and most effective solution to controlling poison ivy is to
encourage a thick sod... You may need to reseed, fertilize, water... or
mowing regularly at 2-3 inches may be all that is necessary...
