roses and bananas

updated thu 16 aug 01

Debra I. Widera on wed 15 aug 01

Last night, while watering my back garden, a neighbor (whom I've
never seen before) stopped by to tell me how beautiful my front and
back gardens were. She was telling me she lived a couple of buildings
over (apt. complex) and grew roses and hers were in full-bloom. Most
of mine have gone through their bloom cycle, although there are
flowers here and there. It's been so hot, I figure when it cools down
again, I'll get another burst. I grow mostly "old-fashioned" roses.

Well, I've never seen this woman's roses, so I haven't any idea what
kind they are. But, she told me if I wanted mine to start blooming
again to poke pieces of banana in the dirt around them. I've never
heard of this. Any opinions?

Debra (in hot, dry Reno)
widera@unr.edu

Alan Zelhart on wed 15 aug 01

Banana's are suppose to be a great food for roses! What supposidly
causes more repeat bloom is the gases released from the banana peel as it
deteriorates. I wish I ate more banana, but I'm afraid I would grow
tired of them very quickly, in order to satisfy my 173 rose
bushes...laugh! When I do eat them, I do throw the peels out under the
rose bushes though. :)
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"Debra I. Widera" wrote:

Alan Zelhart on wed 15 aug 01

A side note...I was just thinking. Maybe we could get dairy queen to
save all there banana peels from banana splits for us =)

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"Debra I. Widera" wrote:

Alan Zelhart on wed 15 aug 01

Well the one here in Chandler does....I watch them peel them :)
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Barbara Martin wrote:

Alan Zelhart on wed 15 aug 01

The key ingredients that I would think help the rose out are; Bananas are high
in potassium, phosphorous and potash. These three elements are suppose to be
very good for roses. As for their ability to make the rose bloom more...I
think any food that makes a rose healthier would definitely increase it's
chance of blooming more. Mine always get thrown out under the Tropicana Rose
next to the kitchen door. I had never thought of this till this topic came up
just now. But that rose bush is *always* in bloom except for January when I
prune it back. It is in bloom much more so than any of my other roses. I
guess for an experiment I could try starving it of banana's and putting them
under another rose in the garden.... But, it is not that important to me.
The Tropicana is closest to the kitchen door, so it will most likely continue
to be the rose who -- gets the banana, so to speak ;)
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Margaret Lauterbach on wed 15 aug 01

A, 'tis a slippery slope indeed when you mess around with banana peels,
Barb. Margaret L

Barbara Martin on wed 15 aug 01

Maybe she is growing hybrid teas that do bloom repeatedly during the season,
more and better with better care. Whereas many old roses do what they do and
that is that for the most part, although good care can help for a better
show it will not usually create additional bloom cycles on a once-blooming
old rose.
Barbara M. Martin

Barbara Martin on wed 15 aug 01

Do they use real bananas? (Just wondering)
Barbara M. Martin

Barbara Martin on wed 15 aug 01

Great! Anyhoo, it is certainly a bit of garden folklore that it works, lots
of anecdotal evidence for popping a peel or two in under a banana. A banana
peel is nutrient rich after all so I'm sure it can't hurt as long as you
are not disturbing the roots or adding them to excess.

On the other hand, I have always suspected that folks who would remember and
carry out such a detail as adding a banana peel would also remember to feed
water mulch deadhead and so on and are likely to be taking over-all
excellent care of their roses.

There, what a trouble maker I am. LOL

Barbara M. Martin

Barbara Martin on wed 15 aug 01

"popping a peel or two in under a banana" ummm let's make that "under a
rosebush" shall we please!

Barbara M. Martin

lots
> of anecdotal evidence for popping a peel or two in under a banana. A
banana
> peel is nutrient rich after all so I'm sure it can't hurt as long as you
> are not disturbing the roots or adding them to excess.

> On the other hand, I have always suspected that folks who would remember
and
> carry out such a detail as adding a banana peel would also remember to
feed

Marty C on wed 15 aug 01

I give my roses banana's ever so often, is a great sourse of potassium when
they look a little wilted. Perks them up.

Marty C on wed 15 aug 01

Yes real banana's .

J. Flora on thu 16 aug 01

I think the reason bananas help many roses out is that they are high
in Potassium. If your soil is low in that then the banana peels will help,
isn't that the idea?
Flora

Annetta Green on thu 16 aug 01

Debra,
I have been doing this for a number of years at the suggestion of another
Gardens member (sorry can't remember who). It has worked really well here
in my sandy soil. Every spring and fall, a shovel is poked into the ground
at the drip line of my roses and a whole banana, or peel is poked about 4 -
6 inches down. I think it holds the moisture closer to the roots in our
sand, and my supply some trace elements missing from the same. Since doing
this I now get blooms all summer also, where it used to be only in spring
and fall that anything would. I have mostly tea and floribunda rebloomers,
but my one spring only bloomer has put out twice as many blooms sind
starting this practice.

It also came from this list to spray a mild milk mixture on the leaves
rather than a fungicide to keep black spot at bay. So far this year it has
worked like a charm. But my two week vacation took it's toll. When we
returned the black spot had taken over, but the bushes are again filling
back in and blooming. Looked kinda funny, had blooms but no leaves for a
week or so.
Anne in FL
zone 9b, sunset 26

Alan Zelhart on thu 16 aug 01

Nope, just put them out there as soon as you peel the banana ;)
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Barbara Martin wrote:

Barbara Martin on thu 16 aug 01

Is it necessary to dry them first? Or is more of a smudgy effect?

Barbara M. Martin

John Mertus on thu 16 aug 01

> A banana
> peel is nutrient rich after all so I'm sure it can't hurt as long as you
> are not disturbing the roots or adding them to excess.

Hey, I just smoke the Banana peels and go out and look at the roses, wow
are they beautiful, of course so is the crabgrass.

-jam

Bob Blakely on thu 16 aug 01

John,
How do you cure a banana peel so it will burn?
Bob

Bob Blakely
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Marty C on thu 16 aug 01

There is no need to dry them first just dig a hole near the rose and put the
peeling in and cover it up.

Stormy & Gary on thu 16 aug 01

If I recall correctly{lol} we did smoke some herbaceous stuff.It wasnt
bananas.You are right things did look wonderful and taste great!WOW
Stormy

---Glenn Park on thu 16 aug 01

In a message dated 8/16/01 9:07:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
Martcyl01@AOL.COM writes:

I think the drying was referring to how John treated the peels before he
smoked them.
Glenn

Barbara Martin on thu 16 aug 01

yes it was rotfl but that's ok!
Barbara M. Martin
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lyn belisle on thu 16 aug 01

John Mertus wrote:

LOL - you were too busy reading The Anarchist's Cookbook!

Lyn, who denies any knowledge of this conversation

John Mertus on thu 16 aug 01

> John,
> How do you cure a banana peel so it will burn?
> Bob

The year was 1967 and the "underground" said to dry the peels in the oven
and then put into cig paper and smoke them. The hit was better supposed to
be better than weed. Alas banana peels have no such effects but the kids
in high school were eating a lot of banana back then...

(Not me of course)

-jam

Marty C on thu 16 aug 01

haha