Deborah Turton on sat 16 oct 04

I know I spelled that wrong.

however, I'm looking for a product called, I think, endoroot used to
help trees - a mychorrizeal fungi. I was at a garden today on a tour in
DC and the gardener said he used mychorrizeal fungi on his roses and
they had fewer problems and were about 6 feet tall. they were gorgeous.
anyhow, he also used it to bring back a magnolia tree. I have a friend
with a sick magnolia tree that I'd like to help. Has anyone used this
product, know where to find it or have used something similar for a
magnolia?

thanks,

Deborah

Sue Jennings on sat 16 oct 04

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Deborah, I sent this email out last month, but it answers your question. There is rose food and various other specific types (like Dr. Earth Organic 7) Check out the web sites.

> Hello Organic Gardeners, Moira, Margaret and I are on another gardening list that is not organic based. One person was wondering what to do with her roses that grew thin canes and couldn't support blooms, even when she replaced them with new plants. She used several synthetic fertilizers and no compost. I thought that the outcome of this conversation came up with info that was worth sharing on this site too. This was my first response after Moira's. " I tend to agree with Moira that the trace elements are probably lacking. That is where the compost comes in. It will help with the structure of the soil, plus those trace elements. Then after you have mulched with compost, and feel that you want to fertilize, I suggest using E.B. Stone Rose and Flower Food which is organic and also has beneficial soil microbes, including mycorrhizae. It is a 5-6-3 formula, but that is not as important as the beneficial soil microbes, which that and the structure of your soil, I would guess is
probably lacking, since you have done everything else.
This is a new generation of organic fertilizers that combine the merits of organic ingredients with the benefits of soil microbes and humic acid to produce a truly unique plant food. Soil microbes are added to supplement those in your soil and help insure that more nutrients are available in your plants. It also containes mycorrbizal fungi. Mycorrbizae are beneficial organisms, which colonize the roots of most plants and become a natural extension of the root system. These organisms serve to enhance the absorption of many nutrients as well as promoting drought resistance and the reduction of transplant shock. Finally, there is humic acid that provides a high carbon diet for the microbes in order to help them propagate and do their natural work."<

> Hello group, I ended up writing my guru Steve Zien, because I couldn't find the info. So, now I have several options too. I already have the EB Stone myself. Here is what he said:
"Whitney Farms, EB Stone, Fox Farm and Dr. Earth are companies that make organic fertilizers with beneficial soil microorganisms. I don't know what their availability is nationally."<

By the way, this link takes you to a good article that Steve Zien wrote about this topic.
http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/california_life/organic_matters/v-print/story/8571316p-9499661c.html

http://store.emerysgarden.com/drearth1.html this a a Dr. Earth site, when I did a google search. They have both the Dr. Earth and the Whitney Farms products.

http://www.whitneyfarms.com/products/fertilizerblends.shtml this is the Whitney Farms web site. It is their Life Link products that have the beneficial soil microorganisms.

http://www.ebstone.org This is the EB Stone web site but the "where to buy" part of site is under construction.

http://www.petrose.com/cgi-bin/browse.cgi?page=prod&prod&7&cat2 This is the Petaluma Rose Company selling the EB Stone rose fert.

http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/bloom.htm this is the Fox Farm site and it looks like only the liquid Big Bloom has the microorganisms in the mixture for sure. I might get this for my house plants. I can't tell about their other products because they don't list the microorganisms.

Happy Gardening, Sue
Plant Spirit Herbals

Deborah Turton wrote:
I know I spelled that wrong.

however, I'm looking for a product called, I think, endoroot used to
help trees - a mychorrizeal fungi. I was at a garden today on a tour in
DC and the gardener said he used mychorrizeal fungi on his roses and
they had fewer problems and were about 6 feet tall. they were gorgeous.
anyhow, he also used it to bring back a magnolia tree. I have a friend
with a sick magnolia tree that I'd like to help. Has anyone used this
product, know where to find it or have used something similar for a
magnolia?

thanks,

Deborah

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Deborah Turton on sun 17 oct 04

Sue Jennings wrote:
> Deborah, I sent this email out last month, but it answers your
> question. There is rose food and various other specific types (like Dr.
> Earth Organic 7) Check out the web sites.

Sue,

I think you misunderstood me. I don't need rose food. My friend doesn't
have any rose bushes, just a sickly magnolia tree. I'm only looking for
mycorrhizae for a magnolia tree. Especially one called, I think,
endoroot or some other mycorrhizae that people have used on magnolia
trees. I couldn't find mycorrhizae on the sites you listed. Gardens
ALive does have mycorrhizae, but I don't know how well it works for
magnolia trees. Also given the conversation about planting magnolias is
the spring, I'm thinking the best time to add mycorrhizae to the soil
for magnolias may be the spring.

Deborah

Tony and Moira Ryan on mon 18 oct 04

Deborah Turton wrote:

Hi Deborah,

Just a minor nit-pick! I see you have discovered the correct spelling of
mycorrhizae now, B-) but you still haven't cottoned on to the
difference between singular and plural:-

Many mycorrhizae, one mycorrhiza

Common in Latin is the singular ending -a which changes to -ae for the
plural. There are several other singular/plural changes in the language,
but this is, I think, the only one that one encounters frequently in
biological Latin.

Tony
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Tony & Moira Ryan,
Wainuiomata, North Island, NZ. Pictures of our garden at:-
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cherie1/Garden/TonyandMoira/index.htm
NEW PICTURES ADDED 4/Feb/2004

Mary Ann Mikulski on mon 18 oct 04

In a message dated 10/17/04 5:00:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
tomory@XTRA.CO.NZ writes:

<< I see you have discovered the correct spelling of mycorrhizae now, >>

Spell it! I can't even pronounce it :-)

Mary Ann

Deborah Turton on mon 18 oct 04

I cheated, I copied it out of a web page, though I forgot about the
plural rules for latin words.

Deborah

Mary Ann Mikulski wrote: