Sure. The commercial food growers are losing money with more
people growing their own. Plus the chem companies are losing with
more people going organic. Why wouldn't they try to blame gardening.
Afterall we are dum, right.
http://news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=574892005
'Higher risk of Parkinson's disease' from gardening
IAN JOHNSTON
SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT
GARDENERS should wear protective clothing when using pesticides to
guard against getting Parkinson's disease in later life, a leading
scientist warns today.
Professor Anthony Seaton and a team of researchers at Aberdeen
University found gardeners who used weedkillers and other chemicals
have an increased risk of developing the incurable, severely
debilitating brain disease.
How well the sub-editor used "gardening" rather than "pesticides" as
the source of danger in the headline!
Yes, interesting manipulation of facts.
Pat
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Really! It is like some people are living in another world. And I guess they are! I just don't understand how an educated person can't see that natural is better in many many ways; better for the earth, cheaper, better for animals/wildlife and better for people. I know the media brainwashes many; but I attributed that to the fact that that group just is not very educated. But what does that say for the rest of them, that have received higher education ( college ) or educated themselves? My husband told me yesterday that in the year 2500 or so, that the earth will be so populated that each person will have .8 of a foot of space. Glad we won't be around in those times. But then I brought up the point that our polar caps are melting so that would bring more space.; of course the rising waters in the oceans would also take up more space. Not a pretty picture. Sue
JT Thompson
http://news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=574892005
'Higher risk of Parkinson's disease' from gardening
IAN JOHNSTON
SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT
GARDENERS should wear protective clothing when using pesticides to
guard against getting Parkinson's disease in later life, a leading
scientist warns today.
Professor Anthony Seaton and a team of researchers at Aberdeen
University found gardeners who used weedkillers and other chemicals
have an increased risk of developing the incurable, severely
debilitating brain disease.
How well the sub-editor used "gardening" rather than "pesticides" as
the source of danger in the headline!
--0-1838272662-1117124641=:25873Really! It is like some people are living in another world. And I guess they are! I just don't understand how an educated person can't see that natural is better in many many ways; better for the earth, cheaper, better for animals/wildlife and better for people. I know the media brainwashes many; but I attributed that to the fact that that group just is not very educated. But what does that say for the rest of them, that have received higher education ( college ) or educated themselves? My husband told me yesterday that in the year 2500 or so, that the earth will be so populated that each person will have .8 of a foot of space. Glad we won't be around in those times. But then I brought up the point that our polar caps are melting so that would bring more space.; of course the rising waters in the oceans would also take up more space. Not a pretty picture. Sue
JT Thompson <jtthompson@EIRCOM.NET> wrote:
http://news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=574892005
'Higher risk of Parkinson's disease' from gardening
IAN JOHNSTON
SCIENCE CORRESPONDENT
GARDENERS should wear protective clothing when using pesticides to
guard against getting Parkinson's disease in later life, a leading
scientist warns today.
Professor Anthony Seaton and a team of researchers at Aberdeen
University found gardeners who used weedkillers and other chemicals
have an increased risk of developing the incurable, severely
debilitating brain disease.
How well the sub-editor used "gardening" rather than "pesticides" as
the source of danger in the headline!
--0-1838272662-1117124641=:25873--
Did those who commented on this really read waht it said?
Kimm
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but, are more people growing their own, or does it just seem so because the internet brings us together? Sue
Plant Spirit Herbals in No. Calif.
James Allan
Sure. The commercial food growers are losing money with more
people growing their own. Plus the chem companies are losing with
more people going organic. Why wouldn't they try to blame gardening.
Afterall we are dum, right.
> http://news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=574892005
> 'Higher risk of Parkinson's disease' from gardening
--0-2002199384-1117141893=:43661but, are more people growing their own, or does it just seem so because the internet brings us together? SuePlant Spirit Herbals in No. Calif.
James Allan <jallan6977@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
Sure. The commercial food growers are losing money with more
people growing their own. Plus the chem companies are losing with
more people going organic. Why wouldn't they try to blame gardening.
Afterall we are dum, right.
On 26 May 2005 at 8:35, JT Thompson wrote:
> http://news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=574892005
>
> 'Higher risk of Parkinson's disease' from gardening
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I just watched a movie called "The day after tomorrow." It is sci-
fi based on global warming possibilities.
As to the population thing, Soylent Green, another fiction movie,
dealt with that in a most undesirable way. Even I get a little
queasy thinking of that possibility
Sue Jennings wrote:
Many years ago, we read a most interesting (if depressing!) SF novel
titled "Stand on Zanzibar" that was based on almost exactly that premise!!
Tony
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KIMM wrote:
> Did those who commented on this really read waht it said?
Yes, I think so - and someone has already pointed out that the text of
the article clearly made the point that it was the use of weed-killers
that was the problem, but that there was a disparity between the text
and the headline, which merely stated that /gardening/ was dangerous!!
Tony
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http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cherie1/Garden/TonyandMoira/index.htm
NEW PICTURES AND DIAGRAMS ADDED 20/Feb/2005
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IMHO pesticides are still expanding by the day. Here in Ireland the myth =
has taken root that round-up is a miracle product that is safe as =
houses. You spray it on a crop and you can eat it immediately!
I found a new low today on my way to town where about 40 acres of =
grassland had been sprayed and were turning a nice crisp orangy-brown =
and where the farmer was putting a herd of a hundred cattle with calves =
at foot on these fields.
A few hours later these cattle were actually eating that dead =
vegetation. Not perhaps with great gusto but they were eating it.
You are probably right Jim that people want to grow their own =
vegetables. I think though that this is more for curiosities sake than =
as a serious effort. Veg. has never been cheaper with ever dropping =
prices. But we have a smart little neighbor who sells minute vegetable =
seedling for three times the price of the mature product and she does =
quite well on the weekly mart in Bantry.
Maybe people have just taken too much poison over the years and a lot of =
them are going a bit soft in their upstairs? 4.5 Euros or about $5.85 =
for six mixed lettuce seedlings does look like an impractical amount of =
money for something that may well end up as an offer to the slugs.
john
but, are more people growing their own, or does it just seem so =
because the internet brings us together? Sue
Plant Spirit Herbals in No. Calif.
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I have not seen "Day after tomorrow" so I will restrict my comment to
"Soilent Green". As Billy Conolly (stand up commedian) said, we could solve
the worlds problems if we could get ourselves to become cannibals. If we all
ate someone we did not like the problem would be halved overnight! Joke,
sorry.
No Jim, soilent green is not a solution to feed mankind because in every
trophic level only ten % of the energy remains from the level below. You
need one hundred kilos of vegetation to produce ten kilos of beef and this
could produce 1 kilo of human. (simplified rule of thumb)
If you were to feed soilent green and nothing else the human population
would crash to near zero in a very few years. Because it would take ten
humans to feed just one in only a few months. Which would of course solve a
good few problems and make in unneccesary to take this way.
john
Yes, and Roundup has a new formula that's effective for 90 days. Scorched
earth policy. OTOH, Miracle Grow now has an "organic" fertilizer. Don't know
what's in it yet.The owner of a mail order seed business (primarily veggies
and herbs) told me that when the economy is stagnant, there's usually an
uptick in veggie growing, but not now. It's actually down, probably because
the present generation doesn't want to eat anything grown in dirt. I wonder
if those cattle will survive long enough for slaughter. Margaret L
IMHO pesticides are still expanding by the day. Here in Ireland the myth has
taken root that round-up is a miracle product that is safe as houses. You
spray it on a crop and you can eat it immediately!
I found a new low today on my way to town where about 40 acres of grassland
had been sprayed and were turning a nice crisp orangy-brown and where the
farmer was putting a herd of a hundred cattle with calves at foot on these
fields.
A few hours later these cattle were actually eating that dead vegetation.
Not perhaps with great gusto but they were eating it.
You are probably right Jim that people want to grow their own vegetables. I
think though that this is more for curiosities sake than as a serious
effort. Veg. has never been cheaper with ever dropping prices. But we have a
smart little neighbor who sells minute vegetable seedling for three times
the price of the mature product and she does quite well on the weekly mart
in Bantry.
Maybe people have just taken too much poison over the years and a lot of
them are going a bit soft in their upstairs? 4.5 Euros or about $5.85 for
six mixed lettuce seedlings does look like an impractical amount of money
for something that may well end up as an offer to the slugs.
john
but, are more people growing their own, or does it just seem so because
the internet brings us together? Sue
Plant Spirit Herbals in No. Calif.
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that makes less sense than what they do here. when they "round-up" a
field they plant corn or beans on it, but not turn their cattle on it.=20=
Why???
susan
> =A0I found a new low today on my way to town where about 40 acres of=20=
> grassland had been sprayed and were turning a nice=A0crisp =
orangy-brown
> and where the farmer was putting a herd of a hundred cattle with
> calves at foot on these fields.
> A few hours later these cattle were actually eating that dead
> vegetation.=20=
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that makes less sense than what they do here. when they "round-up" a
field they plant corn or beans on it, but not turn their cattle on it.
Why???
susan
way to town where about 40 acres of grassland had been sprayed and
were turning a nice=A0crisp orangy-brown and where the farmer was
putting a herd of a hundred cattle with calves at foot on these =
fields.
were actually eating that dead vegetation. =
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JT Thompson wrote:
Alas, we are a breed obviously slated for extinction if the pesticide
merchants, and now even the scientists, have their say.
Mind you, one does not need to be a gardner to be at risk from their
nasty products.
Moira
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http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cherie1/Garden/TonyandMoira/index.htm
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