When a reader asked if a "daisy tree" was hardy in our zone 6 area, I asked
the botanical name, and since it didn't come with one, I suggested he go
back to the nursery he bought it from and ask them. A friend insists it
may be a Shasta daisy standard, and I don't see how anyone could make a
standard out of a Shasta daisy. Can you? TIA, Margaret L
> I know exactly what she is talking about, they have them here and they
> aren't hardy---sorry I don't know the botanical name.
> Debbie in Zone 7
I'm sure the person bought it at Home Depot. Salespeople there won't have a
clue whether it's hardy. My whole thrust there was that if they bought from
locally owned nurseries, they'd know. But can you envision making a
standard of a Shasta daisy? Margaret L
Therese wrote:
Euryops pectinatus, a yellow, daisy-like member of the Asteraceae family is
often found trained into a standard. It is not usually winter hardy in most
areas of the country, although my brother has one in bush form that has
overwintered 2 winters now in our zone 8 climate. 2 inch bright yellow flowers
and a very long bloom season if deadheaded. They are widely carried by Lowes
and HD in this area. Could this be what they are referring to?
Pam - gardengal
A few years ago (well, may be 10) I had a couple of small plants bearing =
daisy-like flowers that were standards, but not hardy in zone 4. I kept =
them going for a couple of seasons, but got tired of the effort and tossed =
them. One-inch flowers, rather finely-cut leaves.. Can't remember where I =
got them or what species they were, but I seem to recall that the origin =
was given as Denmark. Helpful, yes?
Gerry Strey
Madison, wisconsin
Margaret, there are various yellow flowered plants that I see made
into standards here. The flowers are daisy-shaped, and if you'd like
I'll find out just what they are.
Therese
East Texas, zone 8b
It seems to me that the growth habit of the Shasta daisy won't allow for
training into a standard. It grows as a clump of stems from the base, not
stems coming off a central stem.
Lee Ann
Lee Ann Reiners
Edinboro University of Pennsylvania
reiners@edinboro.edu
When a reader asked if a "daisy tree" was hardy in our zone 6 area, I asked
the botanical name, and since it didn't come with one, I suggested he go
back to the nursery he bought it from and ask them. A friend insists it
may be a Shasta daisy standard, and I don't see how anyone could make a
standard out of a Shasta daisy. Can you? TIA, Margaret L
I know exactly what she is talking about, they have them here and they
aren't hardy---sorry I don't know the botanical name.
Debbie in Zone 7
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From: Gardens & Gardening [mailto:GARDENS@lsv.uky.edu] On Behalf Of
Margaret Lauterbach
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 9:03 AM
To: GARDENS@lsv.uky.edu
Subject: Shasta daisy standards?
When a reader asked if a "daisy tree" was hardy in our zone 6 area, I asked
the botanical name, and since it didn't come with one, I suggested he go
back to the nursery he bought it from and ask them. A friend insists it
may be a Shasta daisy standard, and I don't see how anyone could make a
standard out of a Shasta daisy. Can you? TIA, Margaret L
I did find a daisy tree listed through a web search: OLEARIA
AVICENNIAEFOLIA. I think it's a native of New Zealand. It has a high frost
tolerance, but I don't know if that means it will be hardy enough for a full
winter, depending on how harsh your zone 6 is.
Lee Ann
Lee Ann Reiners
Edinboro University of Pennsylvania
reiners@edinboro.edu
When a reader asked if a "daisy tree" was hardy in our zone 6 area, I asked
the botanical name, and since it didn't come with one, I suggested he go
back to the nursery he bought it from and ask them. A friend insists it
may be a Shasta daisy standard, and I don't see how anyone could make a
standard out of a Shasta daisy. Can you? TIA, Margaret L
I've seen Marguerites trained as short standards.
Terry
E. WA.
Could be, but without even a description other than "daisy tree" how can
anyone tell? Do you think a Shasta daisy could be trained into a
standard? Margaret L
My friend is a knowledgeable gardener, and I'm sure knows the difference
between Shastas and Marguerites, but who knows? She is coming and going
intellectually. She kept emphasizing the toothed leaves on the standards
she had seen. Margaret L
Our HD had them too and they did have tags on them. But I can't remember
what it was, although I do know for certain it was not a Shasta daisy
trained as a standard. I think that would be impossible unless they did
some genetic manipulation.
Karen in Pittsburgh, PA (zone 5b/6)
On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 07:03:17 -0600 Margaret Lauterbach
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I doubt it, the growth habit would preclude that (no woody framework, expansion of
the plant due to underground rhizomes). Euryops do have a woody stem as well as the
heavily toothed leaves your friend described. Then, too, marguerites are trainable
as a standard. Did she say what color the flowers were?
Pam
Margaret Lauterbach wrote:
I'm not Pam, but I think that it would be difficult to train Shasta
standards.
On the other hand, I think it would be very easy to confuse the words
'Shasta' and 'Marguerite', as far as daisies are concerned...and I know that
Michigan Bulb was selling Marguerites trained as standards.
Barb in Southern Indiana Zone 5/6 dorsettm@scin.quik.com
Gardening: just another day at the plant
Pam - gardengal
Yes, I just checked and that's the one I've seen in the nurseries around here.
Therese
My grandmother used to always grow a couple. Before I knew what they were I
called them Daisy bushes. I remember that Marguerites are a bit finiky but
not terribly difficult to grow. To train a standard shouldn't be hard as
long as you make a good choice of plant to start with, one with a good
strong cenral leader.
Terry
E. WA.
From: Terry King
> I've seen Marguerites trained as short standards.
I have too, at a local nursery. It was most attractive. When I made
inquiries, they discouraged me to try it (naturally), said it was really
hard to do. Z'at so?
ann
In a message dated 8/21/01 5:57:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
melauter@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
It is possible, albiet a very short standard & in what part of the U.S. in
which it is grown. "They" may have been referring to Euryops daisy which is a
very common standard in warm winter areas. I see it all the time at Home
Depots.
Glenn
In a message dated 8/21/01 9:39:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
melauter@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
I think almost any plant could be trained into a tree form(standard) with a
little effort, staking, & attention.
Glenn
In a message dated 8/21/01 10:30:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
melauter@EARTHLINK.NET writes:
> She kept emphasizing the toothed leaves on the standards
> she had seen. Margaret L
Euryops Daisy
Glenn
Pam.. thanks so much for the info on the standard. i couldn't think of the
name.. I have had them before (from Wal Mart) & they are a fun plant to have,
but I knew they were not hardy.
Thanks again.. Hope this solves the question. Marge in Va.
