daisies, asclepias, trees

updated wed 24 may 00

Lee Ann Reiners on tue 23 may 00

Didn't know about your tree problem, but depending on the size of the
trees, $500 apiece is a fairly good deal for taking them down. As long as
the company has insurance. What are you going to do with the branches,
leaves, twigs? I was able to take mine to the local burn pile, as there is
no ordinance against burning up here. But being in Pgh., you may have to
have them come back and chip them for you. That will make for excellent
compost, if they are not walnuts!! What kind of trees are they? Hardwood?
If so, you could advertise free firewood--many people are itching to save
money by cutting and splitting their own. Probably safer for your husband
to cut them into sections and have people haul them away. Don't let
strangers do any cutting or splitting on your property...liability reasons.

Lee Ann

On Monday, May 22, 2000 8:25 PM, Karen Barker [SMTP:d-k-barker@JUNO.COM]
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Karen Barker on tue 23 may 00

Yeah, the first estimates I got were higher (one twice as much) so I
figured this was a fair price although it is still a lot of money to me.
This is a local guy, insured, of course. DH has a little
chipper/shredder so we could take care of the little branches, leaves,
that way although it will take forever to shred everything up. Or I
might just toss it in the woods and let nature do its thing. It would be
neater if I shred it for mulch. They are oak trees, one red, one white,
so the wood will make excellent firewood once it's seasoned. I already
have a big woodpile, and since I sold my wood stove I don't use much
anymore because I'm in Florida a lot of the winter. I'm the only one in
the family who uses the fireplace. I know I could get rid of the wood
with a free ad in the Pennysaver, but you're right about not letting
people cut it up on my property--even though we've done that on other's
property 15 years ago when we used to haul wood. If we had an access to
the trees (which we don't) we could sell them for lumber the guy told us.
If that were the case it would almost pay for the trees, but there's no
way for a big machine to get at them, and there's no other way to move
them.

Karen in zone 6/5b
Pittsburgh, PA
"Spring inspires much wanderlust, a lot of gardening and a little bit of
bad poetry."

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Lee Ann Reiners on tue 23 may 00

I have a friend who uses Belgian horses to log. It's much better for the
environment to skid logs with horses than a skidder. We had the Amish
bring a 3-horse team over to haul out the pine logs from my parents' place.
They can maneuver pretty well in tight spots.

If the trees are big enough to warrant the trip, maybe he'd be interested
in coming down there to haul it out for you!
Lee Ann

On Tuesday, May 23, 2000 10:37 AM, Karen Barker [SMTP:d-k-barker@JUNO.COM]
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Karen Barker on tue 23 may 00

He could have them with my blessing, but DH says that he doubts your
friend would think it worth the trip for only 2 trees--if we were getting
all 5 cut at once it might be worth his while. He must judge by how much
wood he can get out of it, right? If he's interested, I could measure
the trunks for him, but I don't know how they determine things--probably
they just have to look at it themselves. The other thing is that there's
no place to just drop these trees, they have to cut and lower them in
sections--but they could probably bring down the bottom 20 feet as one
piece. I don't know what lengths they use for lumber. A horse is about
the only thing that would work to get at them. Does he ever travel down
this way--maybe he could take a look-see? If you don't mind asking him
just to inquire?

Karen in zone 6/5b
Pittsburgh, PA
"Spring inspires much wanderlust, a lot of gardening and a little bit of
bad poetry."

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Lee Ann Reiners on tue 23 may 00

Do you have a rough estimate on how big the trees are in diameter and
height? I will probably see him later, and could ask if he's interested.
I can see it now...a team of big Belgians in the Pgh. suburbs! That will
be as unusual as my brother's old Johnny Popper in the suburbs of Pgh.!
Lee Ann

On Tuesday, May 23, 2000 1:44 PM, Karen Barker [SMTP:d-k-barker@JUNO.COM]
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Karen Barker on tue 23 may 00

Hi Lee Ann,

I went outside with my tape measure to check them for you. Do you recall
the formula to convert circumference into diameter? I don't. The white
oak has a circumference at the base of 7.5 feet and at 5 feet tall (just
over my head) a circumference of 5.5 feet--it looks to me like a diameter
of about 23 inches, but it's hard to measure accurately. As far as total
tree height I'm guessing that it's about 70 feet clear to the tippy,
tippy top. When you're standing below it, it looks like it's 100 feet,
but I was trying to use my height as a guide and section my way up the
tree as far as I could see and I think 70 feet would be more accurate.
I'm not good at guessing height; everything's bigger than me, and this is
a hill which creates an optical illusion of sorts.

The other tree, the red oak is the smallest tree of the bunch--like maybe
60 feet. At base it has a circumference of 7 feet and at 5 feet tall a
circumference of 5 feet--diameter maybe of 20 inches? The bottom 8 foot
of this tree on one side has a deformity (not perfectly round, in other
words, like the other trees) where it almost looks like a ridge running
to the ground from 8 feet up.

I really wanted to get all the trees done this year, but I just had to
buy a new refrigerator to replace the one that died and I will be getting
the bill for that any day now. The three I can't afford to get done this
year are all about the size of the white oak (first one). So like DH
said, it's probably not worth it to him for just two trees, but if he
does happen to want them--that would be great.

Karen in zone 6/5b
Pittsburgh, PA
"Spring inspires much wanderlust, a lot of gardening and a little bit of
bad poetry."

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Lee Ann Reiners on wed 24 may 00

I talked to him last night and he wasn't interested in only two trees...
Oh well, it would have been neat to have the horses there. They are big
big horses!

Lee Ann Reiners
Edinboro University of PA
reiners@edinboro.edu

Hi Lee Ann,

I went outside with my tape measure to check them for you. Do you recall
the formula to convert circumference into diameter? I don't. The white
oak has a circumference at the base of 7.5 feet and at 5 feet tall (just
over my head) a circumference of 5.5 feet--it looks to me like a diameter
of about 23 inches, but it's hard to measure accurately. As far as total
tree height I'm guessing that it's about 70 feet clear to the tippy,
tippy top. When you're standing below it, it looks like it's 100 feet,
but I was trying to use my height as a guide and section my way up the
tree as far as I could see and I think 70 feet would be more accurate.
I'm not good at guessing height; everything's bigger than me, and this is
a hill which creates an optical illusion of sorts.

The other tree, the red oak is the smallest tree of the bunch--like maybe
60 feet. At base it has a circumference of 7 feet and at 5 feet tall a
circumference of 5 feet--diameter maybe of 20 inches? The bottom 8 foot
of this tree on one side has a deformity (not perfectly round, in other
words, like the other trees) where it almost looks like a ridge running
to the ground from 8 feet up.

I really wanted to get all the trees done this year, but I just had to
buy a new refrigerator to replace the one that died and I will be getting
the bill for that any day now. The three I can't afford to get done this
year are all about the size of the white oak (first one). So like DH
said, it's probably not worth it to him for just two trees, but if he
does happen to want them--that would be great.

Karen in zone 6/5b
Pittsburgh, PA
"Spring inspires much wanderlust, a lot of gardening and a little bit of
bad poetry."

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june m. dean on wed 24 may 00

Hi Karen,
A friend of mine received as a wedding gift a coffee table made
from the slice of an oak tree. What a beautiful table it made.
Best,
June

Karen Barker on wed 24 may 00

I've seen something similar, June. I don't know what kind of tree
(something exotic I think--irregular shape), but it was an end table and
must have had a hundred layers of polyurethane on it--it was so shiny and
smooth you might think it was fake. But it was the real deal and looked
pretty. Hey, if anyone wants to come get some oak and make an oak
table......
Karen

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