Hmmm, just check out the Sunset Western Garden page for Annual vines, here
goes for sun or partial shade: Asarina/climing snapdragon all zones,
Cardiospermum halicacabum/ love-in-a-puff all zones, Cobaea
scandens/Cup-and-saucer vine all zones, tropaeolum/nasturtium all zones.
Deciduous: Akebia quinata all zones, Ampelopsis brevipedunculata/Blueberry
climber all zones , Celastrus/Bittersweet zones 1-7, oh, I think Nichols has
a variegated hop that will take part shade, Park seeds a rose climber that
will bloom in shade, Wisteria, Vigna caracalla/Snail vine it says sun, but I
have a friend whose growing one in part shade, pretty, Hydrangea
anomala/Climbing hydrangea zones 1-21, Mandevilla laxa/chilean jasmine zones
4-9, 14-21, of course, these are all Sunset Garden zones. Amy of
Marvelous Gardens
I had good luck last year with cobaea scandens (Cup and saucer vine) on the
east side of my house which only gets morning sun. The vine is fast growing
(it got at least 12 feet long) and produces big, interesting flowers. It
does need a little babying to start.
Hops are also an option, although I am attempting to relocate mine (too big
and shade producing for my small part sun space) to someone else's yard. If
anyone in the Portland area wants rhizomes of Cascade or Willamette hops,
email me. PS I saw my first (albeit sluggish) bumblebee and ladybug of the
season this past weekend. Happy Spring !
Tom
Portland OR, Zone 8
http://www.teleport.com/~scut/garden.htm
I grow moonflowers and morning glories in Wisconsin. . .together over an
arbor in my veggie garden. The moonflowers usually start blooming late
August and go until frost. I love it when they are both blooming, then I
have flowers all day long. And, the moonflowers have a great fragrance.
Linda, Gardening Zone 4b/5a
Scobie Wagon Works
Extraordinary Wagons and Toys
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I saw an ad for a Moon Flower vine in a but it didn't give zones. Could
anyone tell me if it would grow in Michigan? Barb
Thank you. I have had good luck with Morning Glories and Four O'Clocks
and I hoped the Moon Flower would make a great addition . Barb in
Michigan
an
> arbor in my veggie garden. The moonflowers usually start blooming late
> August and go until frost. I love it when they are both blooming, then
I
> have flowers all day long. And, the moonflowers have a great
fragrance.
> I saw an ad for a Moon Flower vine in a but it didn't give zones. Could
> anyone tell me if it would grow in Michigan? Barb
Should do, but might not start blooming until very late in
the season -- it likes heat and lots of sun but then keeps
going until frost.
--
Barbara Martin
en Reports!
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re: moonflowers
The year that I grew morning glories up the evergreens I also planted
moonflowers. I got no moonflowers (zone 5/6). And, although the child in me
would like to think that growing them next to each other is why I got
eveningflowers, the scientist doesn't think that it's possible.
Esther
Thank you. I'm sending out an order today. They look like a beautiful
vine. Barb in Michigan
Could
On the way home from market yesterday, we stopped at the nursery to
look at vines to climb our ailing sassafras trees and make shade for
a hosta bed. I was thinking "more clematis" but clematis growth is
too slow for the immediate need. We left with a large silver lace
vine. We planted it today and I hope it wasn't a mistake. The roots
of the sassafras looked fine and of I had to smell the aroma of 'root
beer' from each sassafras root we removed (little diversion).
My question is this: If these sassafras trees recover by next year,
will the vine manage to tear them down? Maybe I should have put more
thought into this? Just how heavy does the silver lace vine get?
Well, not in actual weight but does it really place a load on a
structure? At least I knew a wisteria would be a wrong move!
Oh, oh, something else. There's a flower on the climbing hydrangea!
And it's only in it's second season. I'm so thrilled.
--
Linda, gardening in NW Ohio near Toledo / Lake Erie (USDA Zone 5)
Metrofarm known as Blue Clay Plantation
llbs@mail.accesstoledo.com
Oh, man. I wish I'd have known you were contemplating that. I have it
over the arbor leading to my garden, and I really hate it. Margaret L
Arnhild, the silver lace vine is Polygonum aubertii. Vigorous grower is a
terrible understatement. Margaret L
I don't think I'd like it over an arbor, either...nor would I like very
thorny roses in that position. Growing up a tree or covering a woodpile
is a different matter.
They've changed the name on it to Fallopia aubertii...which I think is
appropriate since it grows fast enough...almost seems like it's falling
up out of the ground.
Linda, you can cut it back to the ground each spring and then you don't
have to worry as much about it stressing the tree. What I worry about
is those roots and whether they'll give your hostas too much
competition???
Barb in Southern Indiana Zone 5/6 dorsett@blueriver.net
A root is a flower that disdains fame.
Linda - I do not know waht 'silver lace' is for plant? So I can't answer
your question how that will behave - but the sassafras tree will not break
through with new growth high up in the tree next year if there is no life
up there now?
It might come from ground? Depends what the problem is ... and the roots
you digged away, if there were life could you try to 'grow' them to new
plants?
There is a climber that I am sad I did not remember to suggest for your
earlier and that would do not harm as it is perennial and come from the
ground every year and it is just wonderful: Tropaelum specousium = Flame
nasturtium or Scottish flame flower - do you know it - it grow fast and
rather high every year ... and have the cutes small red flowers - just lovely!
Arnhild Bleie - Hardanger in Norway
Linda Baranowski-Smith wrote:
Hi Linda,
Three years ago I planted a silver lace vine on the side of our Dog's
kennel fence. The first year it didn't do much. Last year it started
growing and really flourished and bloomed from about June until heavy
frost in late November/early December.
This year is is absolutely growing gangbusters. In a two week period I
have cut it back three times and hard. I want it to make a cover over
the kennel, not completely fill it as it seems to want to do.
Dog decided to dig it up. No way not even close to the ends of the roots
after two feet down, in gravel! It twines all about itself and the stalk
really has thickened up into a small trunk. I would be worried about it
choking something to death rather than collapsing something. Where it is
I love it. Am glad it is there and only there though. I was going to
release it behind the barn where previous owners loosed japaneese bamboo
to see if it could strangle that but now am a bit leary of that idea. I
think it could just keep going until it hit the ocean. I noticed today
it is reaching for the clothesline and isn't far from grabbing on to it.
It is lovely when in bloom though so...I like the sound of Arnhild's
plant. Must see if I can track one of those down somewhere.
Arnhild wrote, in part:
> ...but the sassafras tree will not break
> through with new growth high up in the tree next year if there is no life
> up there now?
There are a few scattered leaves so at least parts of the sassafras
trees are alive.
> It might come from ground?
These trees put out new trees from the mother plant up to 30 feet (90
meters) away. I don't know what this kind of suckering is called,
but there are little trees shooting up in various places. I usually
just pull them out. So I know the roots are alive.
I don't know this vine. I phoned two nurseries that might be aware
of it but they didn't know either. Is there another name?
--
Linda, gardening in NW Ohio near Toledo / Lake Erie (USDA Zone 5)
Metrofarm known as Blue Clay Plantation
llbs@mail.accesstoledo.com
It is an annual most places, grown from seed. Pinetree was my source, I
believe. Like others in the Nasturtium family it hates heat and
humidity...was the most pitiful looking thing all summer, and gorgeous in
the fall.
Debbie
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Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 4:38 PM
To: GARDENS@lsv.uky.edu
Subject: Re: Vines
> There is a climber that I am sad I did not remember to suggest for your
> earlier and that would do not harm as it is perennial and come from the
> ground every year and it is just wonderful: Tropaelum specousium = Flame
> nasturtium or Scottish flame flower - do you know it - it grow fast and
> rather high every year ... and have the cutes small red flowers - just
lovely!
I don't know this vine. I phoned two nurseries that might be aware
of it but they didn't know either. Is there another name?
--
Linda, gardening in NW Ohio near Toledo / Lake Erie (USDA Zone 5)
Metrofarm known as Blue Clay Plantation
llbs@mail.accesstoledo.com
..... another name? not that I know - but there *are* other climbers of
Tropaelum - one is yellow, but I just love this red one - the flowers are
rather small compared to the annual Tropaelum.
I don't know if it might not be thought to be hardy enough by you - but I
was thinking yes to that because it behave like a perennial - did they not
have any of the climbing T.? I found the English common anmes in a britsh
book - (The Royal Horticultural Society Plant Guides - and it is give the
RHS award for being a special good plant)
Arnhild Bleie - Hardanger in Norway
> .... another name? not that I know - but there *are* other climbers of
> Tropaelum - one is yellow, but I just love this red one - the flowers are
> rather small compared to the annual Tropaelum.
Arnhild, I finally found sources for seed of Tropaeolum and photos of
the red, yellow, blue and tricolor varieties. The red one is a hardy
perennial in USDA Zones 8-10 (much warmer winter season than we have
here). It's a nice looking vine and all the flower colors are lovely.
Debbie, thanks for the hints about looking for seed.
--
Linda, gardening in NW Ohio near Toledo / Lake Erie (USDA Zone 5)
Metrofarm known as Blue Clay Plantation
llbs@mail.accesstoledo.com
Isn't Tropaeolum a Nasturtium? Even though considered perennial we used to
grow them North of here as annuals. They grew fast and bloomed the first
year. In fact I have not had any luck at all, even with the red ones here.
They just don't seem to like the heat. I have been growing them as winter
annuals that die out in early June (though I didn't plant any last winter.)
Anne in FL
zone 9b, sunset 26
