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you walk in the front door and I don't go over their place at all. The
smell makes me feel sick, literally. Another family keeps their dog in
the basement because he's big and will jump on you and ruin your clothes
and scratch you with his nails. >>
We live close to our dogs; they are house dogs, we travel with them ( in a
Motorhome to dog shows), I even take one with me when I go shopping and yes
we too sleep with one of the dogs each night. I think we are clean and I
think our dogs are clean HOWEVER my husbands sister and her husband are like
Karen. We have met them in our MH (motorhome) and they will sit in their car
and talk to us but don't want to come in the MH. (our MH is as clean as our
house) This makes us feel funny so we have always wanted to really gross
them out. We have talked for years about having a spaghetti dinner one
night, and when we had eaten put the plates on the floor and let the dogs
clean the plates and video it - and when the plates are "clean" turn to the
camera as one of us puts the plates straight from the floor into the cabinet
and say "Ya'll come see us now". I think my brother in law would get sick
then and there if he ever viewed something like that.
Carol Hunter
at 6200 feet in Vernon, AZ
Zone 6
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Margaret.>>
Margaret, My SIL says they may travel out west this summer and if they do
they'll stop by and see us- we are not looking forward to it. Maybe now is
the time for the video... ;-)
Carol Hunter
at 6200 feet in Vernon, AZ
Zone 6
Bentley definitely does *not* smell like alfalfa. He smells like dirty
dog. He's so cute, but I only pet him once (when I first arrive) and let
him lick my hand and then I go wash and don't touch him again. After he
greets everyone, they usually keep him downstairs anyway. But we know
some (otherwise clean) friends whose whole house smells like dogs when
you walk in the front door and I don't go over their place at all. The
smell makes me feel sick, literally. Another family keeps their dog in
the basement because he's big and will jump on you and ruin your clothes
and scratch you with his nails. Actually, now that I think about it, we
did have a dog when I was a kid. (I had forgotten--it's the Alzheimers.)
It was a chained outdoor dog named Patches (a Heinz 57) and belonged to
my sister. I remember my Dad built him an insulated double walled dog
house. I had a cat named Snooks who stayed in the house.
Karen
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Carol,
I think you should do it and then videotape HIM!
Margaret.
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That's probably because terriers really shouldn't be bathed more than once
or twice a year-I didn't believe this until we switched from clipping to
stripping the fur (I'm not very good at it, however, the poor dog always
looks more like a Yak). She does smell sweet most of the time!
Debbie in Williamsburg, VA
Barker
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To: GARDENS@lsv.uky.edu
Subject: OT/dogs was Re: Cat Repellent
Bentley definitely does *not* smell like alfalfa. He smells like dirty
dog. He's so cute, but I only pet him once (when I first arrive) and let
him lick my hand and then I go wash and don't touch him again.
Hi Karen,
No I don't think the house or MH smells like a dog - we have had too many
people tell us they didn't even know we had dogs. I think it is dog HAIR. I
think my BIL found a DOG HAIR on his plate at our house once. Poor guy - I
don't think he has ever recovered. :-)
Carol Hunter
at 6200 feet in Vernon, AZ
Zone 6
Hi Carol,
You do understand that I'm not saying that all people who have dogs have
smelly homes? (Just the one family whose house I won't go to.) The
people I'm visiting tonight--their home is fine--no doggy odor. But the
one whose house smells like dog are not even aware of it, I'm sure.
Someone (NOT ME) said something to them about it and they didn't believe
it and were offended. But I heard through the grapevine that since then
it's not as bad and they now keep the dogs out of the living room. They
say that you get used to smells you are around all the time, and I think
that was the case with them. Some people are more sensitive to smell. I
know I can smell scents better than my DH.
DH has a half sister who has several dogs in her house and it really
smells like dog--I mean **really.** I will not go there at all, and he
won't either unless there's some reason he has too, and then he only
stands. Even DH can't stand the smell in her house--it's not just me. I
was there once, about 20+ years ago and I thought I was going to puke.
Never again. I don't know if she realizes it or not. She can live
however she wants in her own home, but I don't have to go there.
The best way to find out if your house or motorhome or whatever smells
like dog, is to ask someone else if it smells funny. Is there a "nose
for hire" service?
dogs. I know someone who can't even stand being around them--she hates
them--"oooh, the hair, the smell, the noise, they're always underfoot,
etc." Of course she doesn't like cats either. Come to think of it,
she's not too crazy about people.
me.
Karen in zone 6/5b
Pittsburgh, PA
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I'm campaigning against perfume, strong deodorants, Pine O Pine, and such strong
smells. A nice dog smell doesn't bother Miz Anne or I as much as a lady with
about a gallon of perfume on. Had one walk by me today in an office building and
I started sneezing and my eyes were watering. The lady who was escorting me told
me lots of people had that reaction to the woman's overuse of strong smelling
stuff. Do these people have no noses or am just overcome by pheromes too often?
George
Jill Fyffe wrote:
> The best way to find out if your house or motorhome or whatever smells
> like dog, is to ask someone else if it smells funny. Is there a "nose
> for hire" service?
Karen,
Ask a real estate agent.
You are right about people not "smelling" their own dogs. Even
when they are losing money, some won't believe you about how bad
it is. People have always talked about smells a house has but lately,
I have found, they have really been down on smoke, dog and cat.
Smokers are another group that can't smell how awful their houses
are.
Jill,
who has smelled many houses
Also bad are those plug in air fresheners that overwhelm you with
strong "floral" odours. You always wonder what odour they are
trying to cover up.
George,
I, too, hate those strong perfumes. I wear what I think is a very nice,
light, scent, and get lots of compliments on it. I cannot smell it on
myself--at all. Sometimes I think people think that if they can't smell
it themselves, they don't have enough of it on ;-), and then overdo it.
Barbara in Virginia (Zone 7)
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George Shirley wrote:
I remember reading "tip sheets" for selling your house from realtors in
the past. One suggested simmering some cinnamon potpourri before an
appointment. Another realtor suggested making fresh gourmet coffee and
offering it for a morning appointment, then leaving the house. And about
20 years ago a realtor suggested freshly baking bread to give the house a
wonderful smell. Mmm, I love the smell of fresh bread.
My friend from NH who just bought a house in FL in April told me about a
house on Sanibel she looked at and was absolutely turned off on because
the people had dogs and cats and the house smelled. She didn't even
consider the house just because of that.
Karen in zone 6/5b
Pittsburgh, PA
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The cat I gave to my MIL had angora hair that floated absolutely
everywhere; it was so light. After finding it in our food repeatedly, we
decided to keep the cat on the lower level. It made a big
difference--problem solved. Course there's still human hair. I shed as
much as the cat. And since I'm the only one with dark hair, everybody
knows it's mine.
Karen in zone 6/5b
Pittsburgh, PA
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I don't know anyone like that in person. Nor would I. Wouldn't tolerate
them for more than a moment's courtesy then turn attentions elsewhere. You
are not going to change a pet lover's mind with your tales of stench and
obnoxious hair, nor are pet lovers going to change your mind, Karen. I
suggest we call it a draw and hit the gardens. Margaret L
June said:
My dog liked eau de skunk. :)
------------------
Eau du Skunk is much nicer smelling than what MY dog has been able to get
into!
Be thankful, be VERY THANKFUL that your dog hasn't discovered the delights
of Eau du Rotting Seal.
Yeah, sometimes coastal living has its downside.
- T.
Hi George,
I'm with you on the strong perfumes - and I think the people who
wear them can't smell them - they become accustomed to it.
My dog liked eau de skunk. :)
Best,
June
> I'm campaigning against perfume, strong deodorants, Pine O Pine, and such
strong
> smells. A nice dog smell doesn't bother Miz Anne or I as much as a lady with
> about a gallon of perfume on. Had one walk by me today in an office
building and
> I started sneezing and my eyes were watering. The lady who was escorting
me told
> me lots of people had that reaction to the woman's overuse of strong smelling
> stuff. Do these people have no noses or am just overcome by pheromes too
often?
George Shirley wrote:
What I hate the most is walking through the "perfume jungle" in the large department stores. It is always my luck that some enthusiastic
sales lady will be standing there, with her cute little sprayer, just waiting for people to pass. Then she sprays it on a piece of paper,
not noticing that about 95% of the spray ends up in the air and eventually on the passers by, and sticks it up to your nose with a sweet
smile. I've often felt like sticking my human-smelling fist up to theirs... I used to wear perfumes, very sparingly. But after I've had my
daughter I became allergic to them and now break out if I'm anywhere near a bottle plus I think that some of those concoctions really stink.
I hate the "perfume ladies"... ;-p
Margaret.
Give me a fresh, out of the shower "scent" any day!
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Hi T.,
That's hillarious. My wonderful dog was in the past tense. I
still miss having a dog, but I'm not ready yet to get another.
"Rocky" loved to chase skunks. P.U. And he thought he smelled
wonderful.
I live on the coast too, and we have seaweed but no
rotting seal. :) That must be a real treat. I had pets
growing up and my children had all kinds of pets too. I
was talking to a man this week who had a pet tarrantula spider
and he got insulted when I said it wasn't his friend because
it had a spider brain. :) (He said they were friends.) Oh, well.
He said it bit him once too. Oh, joy.
I must admit, due to my phobia with spiders, I wasn't very
receptive to his pet. I should have minded my own business.
:) The mouth is quicker than the brain and mightier than
the North Atlantic.
June :)
I always remember the sign in the hospital corridor while I was waiting on a
gurney which said" No Scents make sense". :-)
Billy D Loke; Kars, Ontario. USDA Z 4B/5A
such strong
> smells. A nice dog smell doesn't bother Miz Anne or I as much as a lady
with
> about a gallon of perfume on. Had one walk by me today in an office
building and
> I started sneezing and my eyes were watering. The lady who was escorting
me told
> me lots of people had that reaction to the woman's overuse of strong
smelling
> stuff. Do these people have no noses or am just overcome by pheromes too
often?
You see this sign everywhere now in Nova Scotia.
Penny
> william.loke@SYMPATICO.CA 06/02/00 12:46PM >>>
I always remember the sign in the hospital corridor while I was waiting on =
a
gurney which said" No Scents make sense". :-)
Billy D Loke; Kars, Ontario. USDA Z 4B/5A
such strong
> smells. A nice dog smell doesn't bother Miz Anne or I as much as a =
lady
with
> about a gallon of perfume on. Had one walk by me today in an office
building and
> I started sneezing and my eyes were watering. The lady who was =
escorting
me told
> me lots of people had that reaction to the woman's overuse of strong
smelling
> stuff. Do these people have no noses or am just overcome by pheromes =
too
often?
> I always remember the sign in the hospital corridor while I was waiting on a
> gurney which said" No Scents make sense". :-)
> Billy D Loke; Kars, Ontario. USDA Z 4B/5A
********************
Was that your 2 cents worth?
Linda, gardening in NW Ohio near Toledo/Lake Erie, USDA Zone 5
Metrofarm name: Blue Clay Plantation
llbs@mail.accesstoledo.com
I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, Margaret. I was just commenting
on the fact that I know people who have dogs, that some of them aren't
too clean, that some people can't stand pets in any form, and wondering
why petting dogs makes my hand smell. As far as calling it a draw, I
wasn't aware we were competing. I certainly wasn't.
But back to gardening--we just had a storm with wind and hail and it
smashed down all my flowers. I'm going to have to try to shake things
off and straighten them up. I can see some foxglove all bent down, and
the peonies are knocked to pieces. It never fails, just when the garden
looks good...........
Karen in zone 6/5b
Pittsburgh, PA
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Yes, western Pennsylvania has had its share of severe storms these past few
days! Cambridge Spings got 4 inches of rain in one hour Wednesday evening.
In addition to closing down the elementary school because of flooding,
the storm took down some limbs from my two large sugar maples, narrowly missing
my rescued Rhody. (The rhody was torn apart by the excavation for the house
two years ago, and I found this one piece, about 6 feet high, with a bit
of root still attached. I planted it out back, along with two smaller
pieces that had root sections, and this and one of the smaller ones did
manage to survive. Blooming beautifully this year. Ah, the spirit of
plants surviving adversity is what makes gardening so great!)
I remember my mother tying up her peonies when I was a kid. She used
strips of flannel from old, discarded pajamas, with old broomsticks to
support the weight. I hope yours recover.
Lee Ann
---------------
Karen wrote:
> But back to gardening--we just had a storm with wind and hail and it
smashed down all my flowers. I'm going to have to try to shake things
off and straighten them up. I can see some foxglove all bent down, and
the peonies are knocked to pieces. It never fails, just when the garden
looks good...........
Karen in zone 6/5b
Pittsburgh, PA
<<
Hi Lee Ann,
Did you get 4 inches too? My peony plants will be okay, the rain and
hail just knocked a lot of the flowers to pieces. I hardly got to enjoy
them at all, and pfff! they're gone. The previous 4 inches of rain
ruined some too. There are a few left, but even with the cages they're
battered down. Without the cages they would all be lying flat on the
ground I'm sure. Glady you still have your rhodie.
A hummingbird was just sitting on a branch in the lilac this morning. I
looked out the window and there he was. I wonder if he wants me to put
out the feeder. But I have lots of things growing for him so I don't
think he needs it. Something I've always wondered about is if it's
really good to give them sugar water. Nectar from flowers must have a
somewhat different composition. Maybe someday we'll find out that we're
weakening them or something by giving them refined sugar? Have you ever
read anything about that in Audubon?
Karen in zone 6/5b
Pittsburgh, PA
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Hummingbirds eat the nectar from flowers and feeders for quick energy.
They eat insects for their bodily maintenance. I finally have been able
to eliminate my feeders because my yard has recovered enough now to provide
them with natural food flowers. My mother is losing her hummer feeders to
the bear! He has ruined a few already, so I'm working on planting her yard
with some good hummer plants.
Lee Ann
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Lee Ann, I'm quite surprised that you have bears in your part of the
country and that Jaime has one, an hour outside of NYC. Have they been
reintroduced? I thought the Daniel Boones kilt 'em all in the early days. A
few years ago when we had a lot of forest fires, we had a large number of
people-bear encounters. One scared some tourists so badly they dropped
their camera and ran. When they realized the bear wasn't coming after them
they turned around to see the bear galumphing off with their camera. Up
north some distance (yet still in Idaho), a single mother set out to give
her three children a camping experience. They left their cooler outside and
crawled into the tent just before a bear ambled along, spied the cooler and
ripped it open. Ahhh, fruit yogurt. But how to eat it? Must sit down. Oh,
I'll sit on that canvas thing. Plop. Gobble, gobble. Inside the canvas
thing, the terrified mother and children trembled silently until Bruno
ambled on down the trail. They packed up the smashed tent and vamoosed for
home, counting themselves lucky not to have been sat on. Margaret L
Wow, you have bears there? What kind--black bears? BTW, Samatha stopped
at Phipps on her way through Pgh and said it was a disappointment because
there wasn't much blooming. I'm glad we didn't go then. Of course the
spring flower show would have been good. But I had been thinking of
going to see their fountain/water garden display. She said it's only one
little room. They had more than that at the home show. She's already
seen Longwood--now that's something I want to see.
Karen
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Yep, there are increasing numbers of bears here in northwestern PA. Black
bears. This one that keeps hitting my parents' bird feeders is doing his
share of damage!
I still think Phipps is great, any season! I remember going as a child,
and I would rather go to Phipps than to Kennywood! Even when few plants
are blooming (between the seasonal flower shows), it is still interesting
to see the plants and the works in progress.
Lee Ann
On Monday, June 05, 2000 11:02 AM, Karen Barker [SMTP:d-k-barker@JUNO.COM]
wrote:
> Lee Ann, I'm quite surprised that you have bears in your part of the
> country and that Jaime has one, an hour outside of NYC. Have they been
> reintroduced?
Just spreading out, reclaiming their original turf back from the furless hoards!
That's putting real human interest into the term "sit-upon"!
Lee Ann
Sorry to hear about your problems Lee Ann and Karen - yeah I'm reading =
emails from most recent to least - just like I do the paper most of the =
time. Anyway. Karen - it never fails that when peonies are in full bloom =
you're sure to get a storm. Just looked at mine last night - they should =
be blooming soon and, of course, I still don't have them staked. One of =
tomorrow's jobs. My fox gloves don't even have a spike yet, but boy do I =
have seedlings - another culling job tomorrow.
Penny
> REINERS@EDINBORO.EDU 06/02/00 09:13PM >>>
Yes, western Pennsylvania has had its share of severe storms these past =
few
days! Cambridge Spings got 4 inches of rain in one hour Wednesday =
evening.
In addition to closing down the elementary school because of flooding,
the storm took down some limbs from my two large sugar maples, narrowly =
missing
my rescued Rhody. (The rhody was torn apart by the excavation for the =
house
two years ago, and I found this one piece, about 6 feet high, with a bit
of root still attached. I planted it out back, along with two smaller
pieces that had root sections, and this and one of the smaller ones did
manage to survive. Blooming beautifully this year. Ah, the spirit of
plants surviving adversity is what makes gardening so great!)
I remember my mother tying up her peonies when I was a kid. She used
strips of flannel from old, discarded pajamas, with old broomsticks to
support the weight. I hope yours recover.
Lee Ann
---------------
Karen wrote:
> But back to gardening--we just had a storm with wind and hail and it
smashed down all my flowers. I'm going to have to try to shake things
off and straighten them up. I can see some foxglove all bent down, and
the peonies are knocked to pieces. It never fails, just when the garden
looks good...........
Karen in zone 6/5b
Pittsburgh, PA
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