Has anyone else tried growing ivy on a chain link fence?
I understand about winter burn and it not being protected but it is in it's
3rd. year now and seems to be thriving.
Also there are clematis mixed in with it. Does anyone foresee any problems
with that?
I've never pruned the clematis because it is a privacy shield between me and
the neighbors with a barren yard. He's the guy who clipped one of the
clematis off at about 3". (It's growing back, up to about 12" now!!
Hooray!!)
JO
NJ
Marilyn:
> I grow ivy, or I should say, ivy grows, both on my wooden
> fence and is now starting onto the chain link. I love it, since it
> stays green all winter, at least here in zone 6, and looks very nice
> as a backdrop to other plants
What kind of ivy do you have? I'm looking for something to cover our
fence in the back, which is in the shade. Would yours work?
Dan Dixon
Hi, Jo, I grow ivy, or I should say, ivy grows, both on my wooden
fence and is now starting onto the chain link. I love it, since it
stays green all winter, at least here in zone 6, and looks very nice
as a backdrop to other plants. The only thing I have to do is watch
it since it would like to take over the entire yard again....the
entire back yard was covered with ivy when I moved in here, and it
likes to jump down from the fence to the soil, once there, it sends in
roots and is on its way.....but not so bad that it cannot be easily
controlled.
Marilyn
Hi, Jo, I grow ivy, or I should say, ivy grows, both on my wooden
fence and is now starting onto the chain link. I love it, since it
stays green all winter, at least here in zone 6, and looks very nice
as a backdrop to other plants. The only thing I have to do is watch
it since it would like to take over the entire yard again....the
entire back yard was covered with ivy when I moved in here, and it
likes to jump down from the fence to the soil, once there, it sends in
roots and is on its way.....but not so bad that it cannot be easily
controlled.
Marilyn in Massachusetts
Marilyn:
No, not really (unfortunately for me). :-)
> Marilyn in Massachusetts
Ah, that could be some help...could it be Boston ivy?
Dan Dixon
> What kind of ivy do you have? I'm looking for something to cover our
> fence in the back, which is in the shade. Would yours work?
I have ivy growing on my fence that is completely shaded by my
neighbors large pine trees. I think it is Boston Ivy. It covers the an
otherwise ugly about to fall down fence that my neighbor is fond of. I
use to have an ivy on my house when I lived near Wrigley Field. I told most
people it was the same ivy that grew on the outfield walls of the "Friendly
Confines" I also had grass from the foul lines. In 84 after the Cubs lost
to the Padres for the National League champs :-((( the ground crews
replaced all the grass. Talk about some well tended healthy grass. They
let me dumpster dive and I re sodded my small back yard with a little bit
of Cub history! The ivy on the house was beautiful and helped keep my
house cooler(the bricks didn't heat up in the sun) and the birds making
dive bomb runs for the "grapes" in the fall was a sight to behold. I sold
the house three years ago and the new "yuppie" owner tore the ivy off the
first spring! I guess it clashed with his color scheme or something!!
:-((( Once you get it started ivy is very hardy and will fill in quite
nicely. toni
Hi, Dan, yes, my ivy grows in almost complete shade.....however, I do
not know what kind it is....it is all green, leaves are fairly
large... not much help, am I? It was here when I moved in, so did not
purchase it...I think it is a pretty common ivy...oh, it is the kind
that grows on the stone walls of ivy league colleges, I think...does
that help?
Marilyn in Massachusetts
Dan wrote: > .could it be Boston ivy?
Well, I was going to say that, but did not want to lead you astray...I
would guess that someone on the list might recognize what it is from
my paltry description, and post for you.
Marilyn
Dan and Marilyn,
Boston ivy is deciduous and actually a close relative of Virginia Creeper.
(B.I. is Parthenocissus tricuspidata and V.C. is Parthenocissus
quinquefolia).
The evergreen ivy you describe, Marilyn, is likely plain old Hedera helix.
There are other species and, it seems, countless cultivars of Hedera helix
- many with small and/or curly and/or variegated leaves - either in green
and white or green and yellow or gold. Some are likely more hardy than
others. I buy interesting ones whenever I come across them - sometimes at
the grocery store, sometimes at nurseries and sometimes mailorder when the
description sounds neat - and have found most of them to be hardy in my
garden. Some are more vigorous than others. All are pretty neat IMO.
I've got 8 or 10 different ones living in pots, waiting patiently for the
day I get around to planting them on this bank - I want to try a tapestry
effect of different cultivars - one of these days.
Back in June of '97, I did an article on ivy with links to photos of some
of the forms and colors that might be of interest to you, Dan. The URL is:
http://suite101.com/articles/article.cfm/1995
Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
(an ivy lover)
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Marge Talt:
> The evergreen ivy you describe, Marilyn, is likely plain old Hedera helix.
[snip]
> Back in June of '97, I did an article on ivy with links to photos of some
> of the forms and colors that might be of interest to you, Dan. The URL is:
> http://suite101.com/articles/article.cfm/1995
Thanks Marge. I'll have a look.
Dan Dixon
In a message dated 7/14/98 5:06:32 PM, you wrote:
<
:-((( Once you get it started ivy is very hardy and will fill in quite
nicely. toni>>
Question. I'd like to grow ivy on my brick house in Chicago, but husband is
very reluctant because of damage to the brick. Is this all ivy, or can we
suggest some variety or method that might work???
Elizabeth
a little sluggish today after two Bastille day parties AND a fine French meal
in between last night.
I talked to several tuck pointers in the years I owned my home that was
completely covered in ivy. The consensus was that the ivy does not pull
the mortar out of the brick or damage the brick. The problem is when you
pull the ivy off when it is still alive it may pull some of the mortar with
it.(those little suckers hang on tight) My experience with the ivy was it
kept the brick drier in wet weather, kept it from heating up in the
summer(making the house cooler and at the time I did not have air
conditioning) and gave my house two different looks....brick color in the
winter, lush and green in the summer. I loved it!! The only work I had to
do was trim around the windows...it would cover the screens if you let it.
This house is over 100 years old and the brick looks fine(now that the ivy
has been removed)
So I say if you like the look.....go for it! toni
Just one more thing to think about if you want that look. Ivy also acts as
an environment for critters. Insects (ants), snakes and rodents. I am not
saying don't do it but especially if it is an old house that is not too
airtight you are inviting problems. You might want to start with a "find
and plug" party if you are thinking of covering the house in ivy.
Old-timers will remember me telling about pulling ivy off the house (wooden
siding) without gloves, until I found the snakeskin...
Esther
Elizabeth,
I'm so far behind in email, I don't know if you got a reply on this
one.....so FWIW...
Ivy (Hedera helix) will NOT damage brick. If the mortar is already
degraded (crumbling), it will assist it, but sound mortar will not be
affected. Ivy clings by holdfasts. They simply grip the brick or whatever
else they are climbing, they don't act like roots and try to burrow into to
it.
Ivy sticks tight, so it is hard to remove and often bits of the holdfasts
remain when the stem is pulled off. These can be removed with elbow grease
and a wire brush - a lot of work - but work only necessary if you want to
remove it.
There are countless stately mansions in Europe with walls covered in ivy -
walls that have been standing for centuries.
So tell your hubby it *won't* hurt the brick if your brickwork is sound to
start with, and if it isn't, it will continue to degrade whether you have
ivy on it or not.
Any cultivar of Hedera helix that is hardy in your area would be suitable.
I, personally, prefer the smaller leafed ones - there are some with curly
leaves, some with minute leaves, some with leaves shaped like a bird's
foot, variegated ones in white and green or yellow (gold) and green. Some
are fast growers and some are not. Some are more hardy than others. The
selection to choose from is mind boggling!
Marge
(a fan of Ivy)
Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
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is
> very reluctant because of damage to the brick. Is this all ivy, or can we
> suggest some variety or method that might work???
> Elizabeth
> a little sluggish today after two Bastille day parties AND a fine French
meal
Hi,
I'm new to the group and live in Roswell, Ga. We recently bought a
vacation home and the yard has a small slope and the slpe was planted
with ivy. I don't like ivy at all and want to get rid of it. There's
a lot of it and I would like to replace it with another ground cover.
And ideas on how to get rid of the ivy. I would like to spray it with
something organic as I just don't have the time of the energy to pull
it all up.
Thanks!
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I feel your pain! I yanked all mine out as best I could, but in the spring =
I
see them popping up still and I yank as I see them. I was told bleach kills
them, but you must give them a fresh wound. So I would weed whack it all,
rake up the pieces (you don't want any left or else they will root and grow
more!), and spray the open wounds with a bleach solution and see if that
would help. Not sure if a pre-emergent would help, but maybe others have
some ideas too. I'd love to hear about it.
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