fungicide

updated sat 8 jul 06

Anne Holzwarth on tue 24 feb 98

I have been given a gallon jar of Bayleton, a 25% wettable systemic
fungecide
powder. The booklet with directions for mixing is missing. Can anyone tell
me how to use this product?
Anne in MA

Brian & Virginia on wed 5 jul 06

You should give some thought to using a systemic fungicide . Bayer makes=
one that is available at the local Home Depot .

What did you use Carolyn ? ,,, and did it get washed off ? ,,, or just=
misted to damp ??

Brian & Virginia,,, ???
Lowell, In
Zone 5

> the fungicide is effective only when it's dry???? I had to wash down
> the area so it's all wet now, but my question is about whether or not I=

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Carolyn Schaffner on wed 5 jul 06

Hello, everybody!

I dusted some plants with fungicide the other day, and I'm wondering if
the fungicide is effective only when it's dry???? I had to wash down
the area so it's all wet now, but my question is about whether or not I
should reapply the stuff??

Ken?? you out there???

Carolyn Schaffner in sunny, cool, drying out Buffalo, NY

Kenneth G. Marek on wed 5 jul 06

yeah i am out here .... but i dont know the answer to your question ....

i used to dust divisions with rootone with fungicide .... just for the
fungicide .... usually i did it on questionable plants... and often they
were lost.. but they may have been lost causes by the time i was trying to
rescue them ....

your other note ... re: solbergs planting method .. thats the way i used to
plant roses back in my rose days .... i dont see any advantage nor
disadvantage to it ....

but i have a real problem with their depth statements .... on my nearly pure
sand.. it is like cement by late summer .... the only place it is not cement
is under the drip irrigation lines ... where the chipmonks would tunnel ....
and the small and mini hosta would drop into the hole over time... and
disappear and die from being planted too deep ... NOT voles.. they werent
eating the hosta.. just tunneling under them .... you can not plant a 3
inch hosta [mature] three inches too deep and think it will grow to the
proper depth .... so the scale of the mature plant may indicate otherwise
...

on the other hand.. you put in a 5 gallon pot of sum and substance .... i
basically dont think you could kill it .. if you took it out of the pot and
put it on the driveway .... so the size of your plant should be in the
equation of how deep you plant it ....

and then i would be concerned about your soil .... maybe in a highly amended
hosta bed... the plant can re-arrange itself ... and work out these things
.... but if you have heavy clay .. and plant 3 inches too deep .. all i see
in the future is a plant that wont be able to move oxygen to the crown ...
no upside to that ...

and this all fails to take into account what type of trees you have.. and
how invasive they are .... if you do any soil amendment under
maples/willows/box elder/mulberry ... etc .... all you are going to do is
call the tree to the amended hole.. where it will come in and steal all the
nutrients and water .... IMHO .. you are better off .. under such trees ....
to remove all potting soil .. most of it anyway .... plant it .... add
nothing ... and replace the native soil ... then broadcast all water .. and
broadcast fertilizer if necessary ... no matter what you do ... TREES WIN
.... please dont be confused and encourage them with all the goodies ....

this of course is contray to the $100 dollar hole for the $10 dollar hosta
.... and bob/nancy's theory as you stated it ... but i would bet one single
dollar that the tree farmer [van] and the professional[bob] arent dealing
with what some of us are dealing with as to trees ...

all that said ... and as noted above .. THEY ARE HOSTA..... for crying out
loud ... dig hole... insert.. water... 99% success rate ... theory is great
.. but really now... it probably doesnt matter ... and that is a big reason
we all love hosta ...

have a great day ... ken

PS: and if you were asking another ken .. please ignore the above .. lol
....

PPS: you also didnt indicate why you were dusting fungicide in the first
place ... may i recommend that if it wasnt necessary ... you probably didnt
need it .... did you actually ID a problem and act with chemicals to prevent
it??? ... or just find an extra bag .. and figure you would use it up ?????
.. i am sure you know better.. but with the robin and the WWWeb .. i am
always leery of making blanket statements about the use of chemicals..
thinking of nightmare scenarios were all 100 people run out to dump
fungicides all over the garden .. because we speak of it ... the old lemming
theory .... so ... basically ... to cover my backside ...DONT USE ANY
CHEMICALS UNLESS THERE IS A PROBLEM .. AND THEN USE ACCORDING TO THE
INSTRUCTIONS PROVIDED.. AND ACCORDING TO THEM ... twice as much is not twice
as good .... lol ... and there in lies [?] your answer CS ... what did the
label say????

PPPS: you would probably be better off and safer ... in general .. if you
just had a measuring cup with 10% bleach in it.. and sterilized your knife
after each cut ... sanitizing the wound ....

PPPPS: be kind to me butch .. lol ....

Erica Elizabeth Gordon on wed 5 jul 06

Carolyn, Ken and all,

Don't know your cause/need for fungicide, but have you ever tried flowers of
sulphur? Years ago, when I grew hundreds of African Violets in too small a
space, and with barely adequate air movement, I used f o s, which was quite
effective against mildew. Purchased at drugstore.
Good luck!
Erica Elizabeth Gordon
Woodstock, NY

on fri 7 jul 06

I dusted some plants with fungicide the other day, and I'm wondering if
the fungicide is effective only when it's dry???? I had to wash down
the area so it's all wet now, but my question is about whether or not I
should reapply the stuff??

Arnhild Bleie on sat 8 jul 06

Rule one in the use of pesticides: You must read and use it the way
the label on the fungicide says!
It is not good neither for your self nor the environment to use it
the wrong way.

I have never used a fungicide that I had to dust - normally I mix it
with water and spray it out .. I have a feeling o you may have used
it wrong? - but maybe you have fungicide you dust out by you ?

"All the flowers of all tomorrows are in the seeds of today!"
Arnhild Bleie - Hardanger in Norway