anyone have buddleia reseed?

updated sun 27 aug 00

Dorsett on fri 25 aug 00

Buddleia davidii is what I have, and it does reseed. I've gotten a couple
of whites and some midtone purples. Those roots go down deep and
fast...umph There are three that I'm watching, just to see what I get.

Sparrows and finches enjoy eating the seeds. It's a treat watching them
harvest, but the fact that butterfly bushes *do* reseed is yet another good
reason to deadhead 'em, because we don't want them escaping into the wild
and growing on all too well.

Barb in Southern Indiana Zone 5/6 dorsett@blueriver.net
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Pauline on fri 25 aug 00

Boy, was I surprised---I kept pulling out this "weed" not really knowing
what it was. A few didn't get pulled and turned out to be buddleia (I
think)----actually bloomed less that a foot tall! I didn't know buddleia's
did this. I have three buddleia's in the area, and the flower is definitely
just like one of the plants (Alas, I don't know the botanical name). Has
anyone experienced this?
Pauline
Wilmington, NC
Gardening Zone 8
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Deborah Green on fri 25 aug 00

Yes..it is one of the plants that some worry is going to be an invasive
exotic in many places! Reason to deadhead religiously.

Debbie in Williamsburg, VA

Boy, was I surprised---I kept pulling out this "weed" not really knowing
what it was. A few didn't get pulled and turned out to be buddleia (I
think)----actually bloomed less that a foot tall! I didn't know buddleia's
did this. I have three buddleia's in the area, and the flower is definitely
just like one of the plants (Alas, I don't know the botanical name). Has
anyone experienced this?
Pauline
Wilmington, NC
Gardening Zone 8
pauline@ec.rr.com

Penny Nielsen on fri 25 aug 00

Hi Pauline - Don't think you've been posting for awhile now. Glad to see =
your back.

I tried 3 buddleias and all have croaked after a years or 2, but I'm sure =
others on the list have said they reseed quite a bit. Are the blooms the =
same as the paretn blant. Lucky you.

Penny

> pauline@EC.RR.COM 08/25/00 08:23AM >>>
Boy, was I surprised---I kept pulling out this "weed" not really knowing
what it was. A few didn't get pulled and turned out to be buddleia (I
think)----actually bloomed less that a foot tall! I didn't know buddleia's=

did this. I have three buddleia's in the area, and the flower is =
definitely
just like one of the plants (Alas, I don't know the botanical name). Has
anyone experienced this?
Pauline
Wilmington, NC
Gardening Zone 8
pauline@ec.rr.com

Carol Wallace on fri 25 aug 00

Pauline wrote:

All the time! I had one seed germinate on the algae on my small fountain and
start to grow there. This year there were buddleia plants in the woods - they
had to lie down for the flowers to get any light - but there they are!
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Barbara Martin on fri 25 aug 00

Yes. A buddleia seedling came up in a pot on my front patio so I am waiting
to see what color it is -- it should bloom any time now. Another seedling,
in the garden though, is a well established shrub now -- good performer and
quite robust, blueish purple blooms, greyish foliage. Yet another plant in
my garden I grew from a cutting taken from a seedling that had grown up
along the edge of a country road. A nice pink, sort of a reverted type of
hot color. There was a big patch of seedlings there, all pink, and I started
some from the best one.

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buddleia's
> did this. I have three buddleia's in the area, and the flower is
definitely

Karen Barker on fri 25 aug 00

That's great. Mine never reseed. Of course, that could be because I
deadhead most of it early on, and the later, lingering blooms might not
have enough time to mature. Do they come true to the parent?

Karen in zone 5b/6-----Pittsburgh, PA

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Barbara Martin on fri 25 aug 00

No, they don't come true. Yes, timely deadheading will prevent all of them.
I don't deadhead and that's why I have an invasion of coneflowers and
rudbeckias. :)

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Pauline on fri 25 aug 00

The buddleia that seeded looks pretty much exactly like its parent, only
smaller. When it doesn't "come true", what exactly does that mean? The
size of the flower, the color?
Pauline
Wilmington, NC
Gardening Zone 8
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them.

Barbara Martin on fri 25 aug 00

Sometimes you will get something at least as nice or pretty close to the
parent, other times it will "revert" to the species, other times if you are
very lucky you will get something nicer. Then you can name it and introduce
it and get rich.

hahaha

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Barbara Martin on fri 25 aug 00

Sorry -- come true would mean seedlings would be nearly identical to the
parent. Some seed strains are pretty reliably true.

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> very lucky you will get something nicer. Then you can name it and
introduce
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> Boy, was I surprised---I kept pulling out this "weed" not really
> knowing
> what it was. A few didn't get pulled and turned out to be
buddleia
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jaime on sun 27 aug 00

I've mostly been deleting the past few days 'cause I just can't keep
up. But then Robin called and mentioned this thread while she
laughed like hell.

She laughed because I have a veritable Buddleia forest composed
of the progeny of the 4 cultivars I originally planted. I knew that
Buddleia were a problem in the PNW due to their tendency to
readily reseed and adapt to numerous environments. I (wrongly)
assumed that here in zone 6 bordering on 5, the long, cold winters
would do in seedlings.

I had a large area of open ground right near the 'White Profusion'. I
have been putting leaf mold and manure over that area for years
now because I couldn't break through the hardpan. Slowly but
surely I've been able to break it up. About 3 years ago I noticed
that among the weeds, were little buddleias. Hmm. Well, I figured
I'd dig them up in the spring and give them to people or spread
them around the property. Then things went kinda haywire in my
life and they were left undisturbed.

This year I have a 4 x 5 foot 'white profusion' growing in front of my
screened porch in soil that is the native rock bound by clay. I
found several others that just came up this year. Then I started
looking carefully around the property. They are everywhere. Uh
oh. I normally deadhead in order to keep them blooming 'til the first
hard frost, then leave them until early spring when I prune them
back hard. This year I will deadhead all of them after that frost. As
far as I'm concerned this is a very bad sign re: dangerous escapee
invasives and will re-think growing them at all.

So far, mine are staying very nearly true. They are: 'Black Knight',
'White Profusion', 'Red Plume' and I can't recall the name of the
lavenderish one offhand. They are all older cultivars and not highly
hybridized.

Rudbeckia and Echinacea .... rampant everywhere and have taken
over the herb/butterfly garden. I'll post a photo on my website in a
couple of days. They are daunting.

regards,
jaime
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